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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 14, 2015 13:34:52 GMT -6
Post your favorites from this genre! Discuss what you like or don't like! For me, the best DSBM has the highest/most ominous feelings of anguish and despair.
I'll start.
Can't start a DSBM thread without mentioning Xasthur.
I knew someone who couldn't listen to this Xasthur album because it gave them panic attacks.
Another favorite of mine - Coldworld
Nyktalgia - one of the few DSBM bands that can pull off the DSBM sound with decent speed and no keys!
Another one of my favorites - Make a Change... Kill Yourself
No Sleep's own Sorrow Plagues - I especially love the un-production.
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Post by Kerrick on Mar 16, 2015 17:58:30 GMT -6
I've never really ventured too much into this stuff, primarily because of the lyrics. I'd be curious to find a band of this style without the extremely negative lyrics, though that might be somewhat contradictory...
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 16, 2015 19:52:36 GMT -6
Just curious, have you examined any lyrics for yourself at all? ...or just pretty much gathered (without any examination) that with a genre name Depressive Suicidal Black Metal that the lyrics would convict you? I can't speak for all DSBM lyrics because I haven't heard all bands, nor have I heard/read all lyrics. ...but I don't have convictions to/from/by what's essentially poetry so I'm not quite sure how to gauge some of what's too much? (I mean, I get how glorifying suicide isn't ok, but what about telling a story of someone who committed suicide?) NoSleep might be able to verify the lyrics of Sorrow Plagues. (its a band on their roster) That Coldworld song I posted, here's the lyrics - the only song with lyrics on the album. ...I'd rate it PG or G? and it sounds emo-ish/old punkish because of the poor grammar. No profanity. No one ever survived, in this empty life This pleasure is to our, emerge with a star You have not really lived, your life has no goal You watch her getting old, Your empty eyes can't tell no story Your empty heart can't stay alive You're empty and so paralyzed, almost nothing, Makes you cry... this empty life
Suffering, to be alive Don't start again, to be alive You are empty... In this empty life
Your empty eyes can't bare no sight Your empty hope can't speak of her Your empty heart can't bare a life, You're good as nothing, makes you cry This empty life This empty life This empty life I just checked the lyrics of another favorite DSBM band of mine and my favorite Aussie band. (though they have some shoegaze elements, I'd still say they have a primary DSBM sound) Lyrics are dark and poetic. Sad and beautiful. No profanity. (posted the video with the lyrics - gotta have that music!)
2. Darker Days
I'd give you my all For just a second of your cold indifference This empty feeling inside me And dreams that will never be realized
So many sleepless nights by Death's side With nothing but this broken mind
As all my memories fade Crushed by the bitter realization Nothing more will lie ahead But these darker days
Here's the lyrics from the main track of Xasthur's telepathic with the deceased. The only profanity is saying "damned", if that counts. Its darker than the other two, but nothing compared to the abstract pieces I heard in college lit class. 5. Telepathic With The Deceased
Tranquility in sickness to soothe the inner madness (Dissonant inner code, blueprints to genocide). Inseminated knife wounds are infecting your thoughts (A reprogram the mind) Come and see how easy, expendable it is for human life to be forgotten, Haters of life are telepathic with the deceased. Fragments of failure, some said it was art, For it only bears a meaning when all life is torn apart. For all we are, are messengers of death and sacrificial hope, For we are a communion of the cataclysmic, Inverting all oceans that shall drown into an eternal twilight (waves so high, once eclipsing the sun) A funeral for those damned, is a funeral for the light. Let us gather in the netherwomb reborn with enough hate to breed tomorrows doom.
I don't know if this is evidence for any conclusion for you at all, but its at least a taste of what the genre contains lyrically.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 10:11:46 GMT -6
Xasthur is pretty good. I used to listen to them a few years ago. like the atmosphere and the vocals. Burzum is my favourite in this style of Black Metal. Varg is basically the forefather of this genre. Like the dark and monotonous style he got on the early albums.
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Post by Kerrick on Mar 17, 2015 10:20:59 GMT -6
Thanks Thomas. I'll have to check those videos out when I'm at home.
I read some of Xasthur's lyrics a long time ago and they weren't something I wanted to listen to, though I don't recall specifics. I'll check out the others though.
I will say that as time goes on, I find myself listening to more and more Christian music. I have an increasing difficulty connecting emotionally with stuff that isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 16:03:42 GMT -6
I've never spent too much time with this genre, but I really like Woods of Desolation and Xasthur (you've probably guessed, that I also like Sorrow Plagues, haha). I'd also like to mention Verstorben, a project from the German underground.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 17, 2015 20:31:53 GMT -6
HAHA!!! I'd say that started out like the DSBM that makes my eyes glaze over. "oh here we go - another 9 minute song intro to a 17 minute track" ...but I love how that kicks in. Thanks Thomas. I'll have to check those videos out when I'm at home. I read some of Xasthur's lyrics a long time ago and they weren't something I wanted to listen to, though I don't recall specifics. I'll check out the others though. I will say that as time goes on, I find myself listening to more and more Christian music. I have an increasing difficulty connecting emotionally with stuff that isn't. Even though its not my conviction, I completely understand it. I certainly respect it. Dog gone it, there needs to be some Christ centered music with a DSBM sound. I'd make it myself if I didn't already have my hands full and if DSBM actually had blast beats.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 4:19:37 GMT -6
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Post by Kerrick on Mar 18, 2015 11:24:51 GMT -6
^I have that song already. I love me some Vials Of Wrath! Definitely one of the best in the scene. Can't wait for their upcoming EP!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 10:34:58 GMT -6
HAHA!!! I'd say that started out like the DSBM that makes my eyes glaze over. "oh here we go - another 9 minute song intro to a 17 minute track" ...but I love how that kicks in. Thanks Thomas. I'll have to check those videos out when I'm at home. I read some of Xasthur's lyrics a long time ago and they weren't something I wanted to listen to, though I don't recall specifics. I'll check out the others though. I will say that as time goes on, I find myself listening to more and more Christian music. I have an increasing difficulty connecting emotionally with stuff that isn't. Even though its not my conviction, I completely understand it. I certainly respect it. Dog gone it, there needs to be some Christ centered music with a DSBM sound. I'd make it myself if I didn't already have my hands full and if DSBM actually had blast beats. Some kind of Christian DSBM could be interesting, if it happens in a somewhat 'authentic' way and wouldn't turn out as some kind of surrogate, like using the same lyrics as always and simply placing them on some 'depressive' bm tunes.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 19, 2015 19:54:12 GMT -6
I wonder what DSBM would sound like with blast beats... probably a bit like EverSoul in some spots?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 18:26:09 GMT -6
I had a really weird dream involving Xasthur once. I fell asleep listening to Telepathic with the Deceased and in the dream I read something that said If I were to fall asleep listening to that album I would die in my sleep. I woke up right then thinking "Hah, what a funny dream to have whilst listening to that very album!", and I went back to sleep, still listening. I then dreamed a voice, and all it was was a voice screaming in darkness "I TOLD YOU THAT YOU WOULD DIE IF YOU LISTENED TO IT!". I woke up immediately and put a different CD on to listen to whilst sleeping. Looking back on it now it's pretty funny, but in the middle of the night when I was three quarters asleep ... it was kinda freaky.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 18, 2015 11:00:33 GMT -6
I literally knew someone who had a panic attack while listening to Telepathic with the Deceased. Xasthur does generate a feeling like no other, something I really like... actually.
I've fallen asleep to that album and other's by Xasthur. Mostly "Portal of Sorrow". More than a few times I just let that "Hiver de Glace" track from Portal of Sorrow repeat itself all night.
Never had any dreams / waking dreams regarding it though. HAHA!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 15:34:40 GMT -6
Very intense music indeed. Have to listen to "Telepathic..." again, haha.
Btw, have you guys watched that 'One Man Metal Band' (or something like this) about Leviathan, Xasthur and Striborg?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 13:48:54 GMT -6
I watched it a while back, it was interesting and kind of ... weird at the same time.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 21, 2015 8:13:44 GMT -6
I only watched the segment on Mr. Xasthur since that's the only project of those three I've actually listened to. I enjoyed recognizing the bits and piece of what he played.
Personality/commentary wise, he seemed socially inept.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 16:23:49 GMT -6
I somewhat wonder if he played that aspect up. I mean I am pretty asocial, and yet I'm a social butterfly compared to him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 10:05:57 GMT -6
That documentary was really cool. The Xasthur bits were really intense, and I felt so bad for Jef Whitehead. My goal in life is basically to be like the dude from Striborg - a financially secure, relatively normal family man with part of his house designated for making black metal music >
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 10:07:51 GMT -6
Also, here's my contribution to the bands list - Gris from Quebec:
I should add that I find it pretty interesting how few Christian DSBM bands there are. I know bands like Antestor have always dealt with suicide very honestly in their lyrics, and the scriptures are full of lamentations (including a whole book on 'em!), but I rarely see it translate to music.
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Post by archdukeofmetal on Aug 30, 2015 15:34:59 GMT -6
This will forever and always be my favorite. I've yet to hear something that takes an emotional grasp as much as this release.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 21:30:51 GMT -6
A little late to this party, but I'll admit I have a love/hate relationship with DSBM music. I'm very much a loner, with an often dark, morose outlook on most things and I can relate to this music. Being a Christian, it's hard to get past the lyrics of some of it, though. I tend to respect it for the artistic vision and the atmosphere it creates, which probably goes hand-in-hand with the fact I like horror movies as well… I have all of Xasthur's albums, and several other similar artists. Not a big fan of Leviathan, but I like Wrest's "Lurker of Chalice" album – although it may not fall into these category exactly. I also like Krohm, Cold World, I Shalt Become (Requiem), Nortt and a few others.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 18, 2015 21:35:59 GMT -6
I almost forgot. The older Forgotten Tomb albums are some great DSBM.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 18, 2015 21:45:15 GMT -6
Weird name for a DSBM band, but then again, so is "Happy Days". This band is actually really good I think.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 21, 2015 22:51:46 GMT -6
Dog gone it, there needs to be some Christ centered music with a DSBM sound. forgottensorrow.bandcamp.com/album/silencioso-como-el-llanto-de-la-lluviaNot sure if I'd call these projects "DSBM" but they're depressing: youtube.com/watch?v=RaVOTF0sFZg youtube.com/watch?v=7T3VmfreppU Betheos Abshalom does depressing/depressive stuff sometimes - youtube.com/watch?v=1asMwOb4FtU
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Post by archdukeofmetal on Nov 22, 2015 12:19:05 GMT -6
Nyktalgia also seemed to be at the top of the game, as far as musically went. Vocals were on point on this album.
Sterbend was another, who I'd kill to hear new shit from.
Pestilential Shadows had a lot of DSBM songs, even though as a whole, I never considered them part of the genre.
Dodsferd has some solid shit as well, though they change genres every goddamn album.
And of course, the greatest of them all:
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 22, 2015 21:04:22 GMT -6
Love the Silencer music.... can't take the vocals seriously. AT ALL.
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Post by archdukeofmetal on Nov 23, 2015 4:23:51 GMT -6
Love the Silencer music.... can't take the vocals seriously. AT ALL. Haaaa. His vocals are so. Fucking. Good.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 23, 2015 5:28:44 GMT -6
I know there's quite a few bands that do that style. If it's every once in a while, like the new Abigail Williams... I can handle that. I can't even handle when Weakling does it.
To me, it just sounds like the dad got scared in a Disney kids movie.
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Post by archdukeofmetal on Nov 23, 2015 17:10:26 GMT -6
I mean, most people think Silencer was over the top. I just never fell on that side of the fence.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 24, 2015 15:20:19 GMT -6
When that black metal wail breaks through the standard black metal vocals, it magnifies the anguish by like a million. Like 1:42 of this track. (but listen to the whole thing - its awesome and has DSBM elements)
I think its a moderation thing with me. If that's the only vocal style (like Silencer/Weakling), I can't get into it. I do think the music for Silencer is TOP NOTCH DSBM by the way.
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