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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Aug 30, 2020 18:25:18 GMT -6
Batyushka (again, supposedly Russian, NOT Polish) has a new release! "Царь небесный". The bad news is, it's only 4 songs. The good news is, most of the songs are longer than usual, and the first song has MORE VOCALS, which we haven't seen since the first song on the debut!
Edit: Also, Since the Death's 2nd album "The Black Must Come Out" is out! Sounds amazing so far. Fans of Black Leather / Diamoth / Chaos Christ / etc will LOVE this.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Aug 31, 2020 8:46:04 GMT -6
I really like the sound he's captured in this demo. I ended up giving that "Anarchy of the 3rd Kind" a few listens. That melody is stellar. I hate to be "that guy", but I'm not getting anything "Christian" from the message here? Especially with lines like in the "Plagues" track, "There is no savioiur of man;"
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Aug 31, 2020 11:49:52 GMT -6
I don't really know the guy behind that project, but I have been wondering. Just haven't said anything. Maybe I'll send him a message.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Aug 31, 2020 21:07:22 GMT -6
? Especially with lines like in the "Plagues" track, "There is no savioiur of man;" The line makes sense in context: "There is no saviour of man; No other tradition; Other than the Caedmons call." Caedmon was a medieval monk who was called to write poetry about Jesus (fun fact: there was a really good CCM/folk rock band called Caedmon's Call). So the line is actually very Christian if you understand the reference, but very obscure if you don't. It doesn't help that the incorrect punctuation and the way that it is formatted make it look like a stand-alone sentence rather than part of a larger sentence.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 1, 2020 11:10:37 GMT -6
The line makes sense in context: "There is no saviour of man; No other tradition; Other than the Caedmons call." Caedmon was a medieval monk who was called to write poetry about Jesus (fun fact: there was a really good CCM/folk rock band called Caedmon's Call). So the line is actually very Christian if you understand the reference, but very obscure if you don't. It doesn't help that the incorrect punctuation and the way that it is formatted make it look like a stand-alone sentence rather than part of a larger sentence. Yeah, the format got me. The semi-colon made me think it was a self contained thought. I knew of the CCM band Caedmon's Call. Actually, I Googled "Caedmon" when I saw the lyrical nod to it, thinking of the Christian band, and it being a Christian reference. ...and all I could really find was info about the CCM band itself, with a little bit about this "french poet", but nothing substantial enough for me to make the connection that it was really a Christian reference. I'm always leery of Christian bands with a vague/ambiguous/confusing message. Secular metal that's clearly secular, I don't care because "fiction" isn't "message" to me - but Christian metal, I want to have some indicators, that it is actually Christian. (I mean, are we all certain that "Satan Destroyer" is something destroying Satan, or is it really "Satan (the) Destroyer"?) 1 day ago on the Christian Metal Reddit, someone posted an Aephanemer track as a Christian song, because Memento Mori "is a Latin phrase that many Saints set before them to frequently remember the ephemerality of this life". I remarked that I like the band, and I think its great "safe secular" metal because the band wants to share a positive message, but in interviews, this band has remarked on their interest in Stoicism, and confirmed with the interviewer, the lyrical connections to the school of philosophy. (sorry, Its just not accurate to me, to post something as Christian Metal, when philosophy has none of the context of religion. (Christianity))
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Sept 3, 2020 9:04:24 GMT -6
(I mean, are we all certain that "Satan Destroyer" is something destroying Satan, or is it really "Satan (the) Destroyer"?) In this specific case, yes. In a case where someone doesn't speak English well, I would probably ask for clarification. I feel like a lot of people are quick to neglect "discernment", 1 John 4:1 etc
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 3, 2020 16:20:23 GMT -6
The irony here is, the less discernment someone has, the more inclined they are to be "tricked" by false truths. More discernment in some cases can have the appeanace of "lacking trust".
Perhaps some of this is from being in this scene so long, and seeing Christian bands with very controversial or no sign of Christianity lyrics.... Or bands with good lyrics, but they rip off people via merch sales... Or bands that appear Christian, and then their next album is about Jewish Mysticism.
Bottom line, our faith is something that should shine, not "hide it under a bushel, no". I've studied the Bible for yeeeeeeeeears, and am aware of many Christian concepts, morals, stories and themes.
So when I scout lyrics and don't see anything I recognize, or see a nod by "Caedmon's call" but then a "there is no savior of man" with it, I can't help but have doubts.
No band needs a masters in religious studies or a massive JPM per track to be easily identified as Christian.
So yes, I would say it's my discernment, when I dig around a band's message, still don't know what it's about... "What's REALLY going on here?" is an inevitable question.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 17, 2020 10:39:34 GMT -6
1 day ago on the Christian Metal Reddit, someone posted an Aephanemer track as a Christian song, because Memento Mori "is a Latin phrase that many Saints set before them to frequently remember the ephemerality of this life". I remarked that I like the band, and I think its great "safe secular" metal because the band wants to share a positive message, but in interviews, this band has remarked on their interest in Stoicism, and confirmed with the interviewer, the lyrical connections to the school of philosophy. (sorry, Its just not accurate to me, to post something as Christian Metal, when philosophy has none of the context of religion. (Christianity)) What the heck!? 16 days later, dude comes back with a statement justifying Aephanemer as a Christian band because "Aristotle and other non-Christian philosophers have actually had a pretty significant impact on Christianity's theological development. Philosophy, spirituality and theology are 3 of the main subjects in seminary if I'm not mistaken. Look into Saint Thomas Aquinas..." Roman cultural institutions also impacted Christianity's development, so I guess that makes Ex Deo a Christian death metal band, because of their ancient Rome themed lyrics. Really, any metal song about "eating food" is really Christian metal, because Christianity wouldn't have prevailed if no Christians consumed food for sustenance. I pushed back to this guy again and told him to stop muddying the waters. Stoicism is about power from within, whereas Christianity is about power from God. For a band to be Christian, it must either have lyrics that revolve around Christian concepts (a Christian message), or have band members known/claimed to be Christian. Period. Full stop.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Sept 19, 2020 20:03:18 GMT -6
1) New EP from Batyushka! Грехопадение2) Symphony of Heaven's The Ascension of Extinction is out now, on CD and Bandcamp! 3) A remixed version of Hellfire Denied's album The Morbid Transition is out! 4) Frost like Ashes' album "Tophet" is being re-released on vinyl! 5) Pre-orders for Jernlov's album "Crucified" are up! Album teaser. Features all of the following as guest vocalists! Niclas Buss; Siervo; Ronny Hanssen; David Sandvik; Eero Tertsunen 6) Behead Lucifer have changed their name to Dark Casm and have re-released their demo "Plague of the Prophets"7) CD-Rs of Proven Existence's "Endless Creation" are up now! 8) Extremely weird black/doom band Path to Verity (aka Путь К Истине or ⰒⰨⰕ̑Ⱐ̑ ⰍⰑ ⰊⰔⰕⰊⰐⰡ) has released 2 new singles, "God Is Increasing" (4:15) and "God Is Strong" (3:42). 9) Two releases are coming out on Annihilated Pentagram soon, with a possible third along the way. The confirmed ones are, Animae Capronii - Heavenly Unblack Metal (Remastered), and a re-release (with full 17 tracks) of Nattesorg - Living by Faith. Both will be on Bandcamp and CD-R.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Sept 22, 2020 20:44:12 GMT -6
So when I scout lyrics and don't see anything I recognize, or see a nod by "Caedmon's call" but then a "there is no savior of man" with it, I can't help but have doubts. Understandable. On the other hand, when I read the Satan Destroyer lyrics, I'm reminded of The Smiths (did I mention they're my favorite band?). There are a lot of Smiths songs with veiled references to homosexuality--mainly "This Charming Man," "Reel Around The Fountain," and (maybe) "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side." Now, if you're not listening closely or don't get every reference in the lyrics, this will go past you. But if you pick up on the cues, you realize "These songs are 100% about being gay." I felt the same way with Satan Destroyer--you may not catch the references, but if you do, then you 100% will get the Christian content. I personally happen to enjoy cryptic and puzzling lyrics, though. Christian lyrics personally don't do much for me--I've been more blessed through the friendships I've made and opportunities I've received as part of the Christian metal "scene" than by any of the lyrics of the songs I've listened to. someone posted an Aephanemer track as a Christian song, It amazes me how many people will try to justify a random band as a Christian band because reasons. I can't get into the mindset of 1) thinking you have to only listen to Christian music (no judgment if that's your conviction), but also 2) trying to make every single band you like Christian. My favorite example of this is Black Sabbath. Sabbath is probably in my list of top 5 metal bands, but they are in no way a Christian band. at. all. Yet back when I frequented Christian metal Facebook, once a week someone would try to argue that Sabbath was a Christian band because Ozzy wore a cross, or Geezer said he was Catholic, or something.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Sept 22, 2020 20:45:55 GMT -6
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 23, 2020 13:03:49 GMT -6
It amazes me how many people will try to justify a random band as a Christian band because reasons. Same here bro... and I didn't elaborate the conclusion of that here, but it got messy there for a bit. Dude started getting insulting, saying "you must be new" and touting that mods never had a problem with him posting secular metal AS Christian metal before. Yeah, I told him I reported his Aephanemer post, (and the mods DID remove it shortly after) and I would report any other post he makes, trying to muddy the waters of Christian Metal, with his secular metal. I'm totally on board with the concept of "Its Christian when I listen to it". I've got a few tracks I can think of that are that way, but no way would I be trying to share them as "Christian Metal". After all, its only Christian to me, when I take the dang song out of context, to make it Christian to me. That's where this guy is different. He bragged about "good Christian" Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Megadeth, etc. songs, (I literally copied that list, from his post) and indicated no hesitation on not only posting them as Christian, but the willingness to argue with anyone who disagrees, for longer than 1 month's time.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Sept 23, 2020 15:07:09 GMT -6
I guess I hadn't really heard these guys before. This reminds me a lot of the secular act Gnaw Their Tongues. (which mean, yes, I like this and I plan on listening to more)
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Sept 23, 2020 18:23:40 GMT -6
This reminds me a lot of the secular act Gnaw Their Tongues. Their past two albums seem similar to Gnaw Their Tongues, as they get progressively "noisier". Their older material (Christian and secular) seemed to emphasize "ambience" a lot more.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 6, 2020 22:18:16 GMT -6
Apostasy, that very early black/thrash band from the early 90s, are back?!
They changed their name to "Seven Eyes of God" and are playing black/doom now! I just heard this from someone on Facebook!
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 7, 2020 14:24:29 GMT -6
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Post by jazzhead on Dec 7, 2020 15:02:09 GMT -6
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Dec 27, 2020 12:58:23 GMT -6
Sounds pretty cool to me!
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Post by theshroudedwinter on Jan 8, 2021 14:05:36 GMT -6
Tape release for Within Thy Wounds / Forest of Iniquity. €10,- worldwide shipping. Forest of Iniquity tapeAlso, Kekal has remastered and released early demo´s on tape. If you want one, I got some. Released via Depressive Illusions Records.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jan 12, 2021 17:17:20 GMT -6
Jonava (our first-ever Lithuanian project!) has released a new EP! Steel Skies
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Post by barabbas on Jan 29, 2021 20:03:57 GMT -6
Our brother in Toreva made his stuff on Bandcamp free through the end of February. This includes the latest release of side project Vyatûr.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Feb 1, 2021 12:57:38 GMT -6
1) Jordskaelv (pre- Winterkou) has rereleased their demo with 3 new songs! [here]2) The original, FULL version of Evig Mørke's "Under a Black Sky of Blasphemy" has been recovered! [here]3) Wapenveld was one of SneeuwStorm's bands that had Christian members, but we're not sure if it had Christian lyrics or if it was one of their anti-pagan parody (etc) bands. Still, for those interested, here is some uncovered material from that project!
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Feb 2, 2021 12:41:12 GMT -6
"SneeuwStorm Produkties reopened in February '21"
Cool!
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Feb 2, 2021 19:06:43 GMT -6
Mexican band Corvidae have released a new single!! "Yeshua"
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 14, 2021 14:55:54 GMT -6
Probably not the best place to post this. I also hope I'm not jumping the gun. I'd like to preface by saying, I'm so glad I put my Reddit and Discord on orationem.com for fans to find me. I'm also glad when a said fan also has a passion for Christian black metal and is a very talented musician. Literally 20 minutes with me putting these drums together and him putting the guitar together on a whim, to make this sample. eversoul.net/testing.mp3This could become something GREAT!!!!!
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Apr 15, 2021 10:34:53 GMT -6
^ That sounds awesome!
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Post by Bartimaeus on Apr 16, 2021 14:31:59 GMT -6
Probably not the best place to post this. I also hope I'm not jumping the gun. I'd like to preface by saying, I'm so glad I put my Reddit and Discord on orationem.com for fans to find me. I'm also glad when a said fan also has a passion for Christian black metal and is a very talented musician. Literally 20 minutes with me putting these drums together and him putting the guitar together on a whim, to make this sample. eversoul.net/testing.mp3This could become something GREAT!!!!! Holy cow
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Post by spiritussancti on Apr 28, 2021 7:46:54 GMT -6
ihsmusic.bandcamp.com/track/terminus-est-demoStuff from the upcoming album that will be released this summer. Nordic mission contacted me, and it is more than likely that they will release it, aswell as my other stuff on vinyl. God speed.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on May 18, 2021 14:55:49 GMT -6
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jun 23, 2021 10:45:27 GMT -6
Pilgrimage from Slovakia have recovered their unfinished 2013 album "Pustovník"! Although it remains unfinished and unpolished, there's a LOT to enjoy here and I'm very glad to see activity from them! StreamDownloads
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