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Post by thevociferator on Mar 6, 2017 10:22:52 GMT -6
So I think most of us here are pretty isolated when it comes to not being able to jam with other musicians and actually correspond off of others and have one who plays melodies and the other keeping rhythm.
I have never had a jam buddy. Even though I live with a bassist he doesn't have a bass and every time we were supposed to jam he never felt it. I've talked to others about jamming but plans just never worked out. And some of it has to do with how I'd much rather prefer to jam with someone more shoegaze/post-rock inclined than anything else.
So with this lack of working with others, my own writing style has been affected. I now tend to write guitar parts that include a melody with a chord progression since I have to figure how to keep the melody and rhythm going at the same time. I still haven't mastered the technique since folk and other acoustic genres are amazing at doing this style. Very few metal bands show this type of playing and it's not a very metal style. I've only ever seen Alcest and a few bands influenced by him play this technique in metal.
If you don't know what I'm talking about I can post a video.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 6, 2017 11:57:35 GMT -6
For some reason, over the years, I've developed very specific "requirements" to riffs and structures. (which is obvious, since every Orationem track isn't ever vastly different from any other track - same with Hguols, Ankou Awaits, DDR, whatever else I've made recently)
I've been particular in part to keep the same sound for an album. Its always drove me a bit nuts to listen to an album and it sounds like a compilation more than a release because the mix, the (riff) structure, the song structure, etc. are different throughout a "release".
...but on the flip side, its hard to keep things the same without repetition creeping in...
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Post by tolencual on Mar 6, 2017 22:20:25 GMT -6
My writing style depends on what I'm doing, really.
If it's Hell Bovine, I try to be a little diverse with every track on an album, but it always ends up going back to blast beats, which is okay. I just mess around on the drums usually until I find a beat I like, or do the same with the guitar or organ to find a cool hook, then hit record and let it go from there.
For Deophobic Necrosis, or anything else where I try to actually put in effort to construct songs, I find it a little more difficult. I'll have ideas throughout the day, then come up blank when I'm in front of the computer. When I'm successfully, it's usually after chugging a few riffs and seeing what works. If I manage to program the drums right, it can sound decent.
At church, the way I play is a bit mindless. I just wait for the piano player to start and I play by ear, then elaborate by playing scales.
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Post by exo on Mar 7, 2017 5:29:58 GMT -6
For me, most of what I do is very much riff based, with the occasional bits of melody or harmonization over the top as embellishment. MOST of the stuff just sorta comes to me by accident. I don't always structure things verse/chorus/verse, I seem to have developed a tendency about half of the time to settle into a specific bit of a "groove" and riff my way thru a succession of similar thematic elements that somehow morphs into a song.....parts that are similar enough to lend a familiarity to it, without necessarily repeating things exactly, until I come back full circle at the end.
. a lot of my acoustic bits and pieces seem to utilize the same base chords/progressions, though I might arpegiate the chords differently, or strum rather than finger pick.
Taken as a whole, the material I've actually started to record seems to ebb and flow between a calm/laid back melancholy and marginally aggressive "traditional metal" riffs with a bit of blackmetal tinge to it.....
The biggest thing, though......i don't have a band, I almost never jam/collaborate with anyone........so the music has to be something that I can play thru just myself over and over and still enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 6:53:43 GMT -6
Cool topic ☺ My guitar playing is still quite basic, so I'm mostly just playing chords and singing. My primary instrument is piano, so I intend to write piano parts sometime; whether I'll get around to it is another question entirely. I think that my limited guitar skills pushes me to write more interesting chord progressions and stronger melodies (in my mind a strong melody is one that sounds good even unaccompanied). My biggest influence outside of metal is folk/world music, particularly with my choice of scales and the use of ornamentation.
As for the piano, a lot of piano music is solo and that's what I'm used to playing. I find it easier to write instrumental piano music than a song accompaniment for this reason. I studied music at school so sometimes we would play the pieces/songs we were studying. One song was I'm Leaving You by Howlin' Wolf so we just spent a whole lesson jamming blues. It was pretty cool being able to play as part of the rhythm section and hearing how all the different parts fit together, especially because everyone had different influences.
As much as I would like to play/write music with someone else I can't help but wonder whether I'd have the humility and willingness to not be in control of the music, given that that's what I'm used to.
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