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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 16:49:09 GMT -6
Ok so many of you know Bleakwail from the Songs of Sorrow Christian album. HOWEVER did you know that their second album was actually a satanic one? Does anyone know why the one guy in the band became satanic or why the rest of the band allowed him to have such an influence on the album so as to make it a satanic album as opposed to a Christian one? I have NEVER seen a band that has a member like that where they actually let that member change the direction lyrically to an album like that.
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Post by Kerrick on Feb 25, 2015 17:57:15 GMT -6
I remember that they are no longer a Christian band but I forgot that their new album is "satanic" (though that does seem to ring a bell...). Do you have any links or anything to support that? I'm very curious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 18:09:40 GMT -6
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Post by Kerrick on Feb 25, 2015 19:04:22 GMT -6
Wow, I just read the entirety of that thread... What an ugly mess through and through.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Feb 26, 2015 7:56:35 GMT -6
For one, I thought Bleakwail was just that one dude, not a "band". Another, I'd question the guy was Christian to begin with... not that I'm the judge of that or anything.
Just my opinion from my interaction with him.
...but others would probably say the same about me, especially on that forum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 10:40:53 GMT -6
From what I read over there, he's more talking about that 'LaVey-Satanism'; in most cases that's simply egocentric atheism with a little bit of "Boo!". Probably quite flamboyant when the Satanic Bible was written (in the late 60s).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 16:06:30 GMT -6
After that thread ended, and he got kicked off of that forum, I talked with him via facebook pm and the dude is really messed up. He told me that the rest of the band were not Satanists just him but I can't see a Christian Band letting a Sataninst write satanic lyrics to put in their album. Anyway whatever the case it is sad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 21:53:04 GMT -6
Its always sad when a Christian band turns satanic or leaves the faith
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Post by Kerrick on Mar 3, 2015 12:49:55 GMT -6
Indeed. There are a few artists I really like a lot who I pray for regularly. As we've spoken about before, it does seem like there is a lot of that in this realm. Then again, perhaps that's across the board of Christianity but since it's such a small/intimate community, it's noticed more.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:55:10 GMT -6
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Post by Kerrick on May 26, 2015 17:09:00 GMT -6
Sad...
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Post by Kerrick on May 29, 2015 17:23:24 GMT -6
I gotta admit, the whole thing just seems weird to me... Like it's some sort of big publicity stunt. Anyone else feel that way? Some of the things he says seem to be fishing for some big reaction - rather than simply stating the facts. I dunno, I could be totally wrong, but something seems fishy to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 6:43:51 GMT -6
But if that was the case why would he claim satanism just to get a reaction to a Christian album? I think they have gone satanic myself, after having heard the album, while the lyrics you can't really tell one way or the other I just had a sinister feeling the whole time. I have been told, NOT by bleakwail, that the whole purpose of the album was to confuse Christians and deceive them.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:51:08 GMT -6
Can't say anything about the album and its intentions, but what I read from the interview looked like...um...trying really hard to upset an audience of Christians. Of course he's free to believe in whatever he wants, but honestly: the same interview in a 'secular' metal mag with the same statements about 'nightclub-sex-alcohol'-"Satanism" would be considered as quite childish. But - as always - these are just my two cents.
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Post by Kerrick on May 31, 2015 14:56:00 GMT -6
^Agreed. Everything he said was just so extreme and appeared to be fishing for a reaction... Whatever.
Larry, if the whole purpose of the album is to confuse Christians, why is he so explicitly laying everything out? I don't think there's much of any confusion other than his/their intentions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 18:18:32 GMT -6
I read that interview a while back, it kinda felt like he was trying to do a Roger Martinez or something. I didn't realise the new album had actually come out, I was always kinda ehhh on the first one anyway.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 17, 2015 18:26:56 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 7:59:32 GMT -6
It just hasn't been updated and the new bleakwail album was never OFFICIALLY released. Nordic Mission would not release it upsetting Jacob very much. Nordic Mission had no intention of releasing a satanic album. Jacob has been giving it away as a part of a contest for people to try to figure out what songs were Christian and what ones are not as a way to try to prove that people can't tell good for evil as his way of trying to prove Christians as being stupid. Problem is that we could all feel the evil in the music and then he just sort of went all hateful all over the place from there on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 10:48:30 GMT -6
The link doesn't work for me. If I can be honest, I want to hear the album, not because of the lyrics though...
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 21, 2015 19:50:24 GMT -6
I updated the page today ... *sigh* ... ... I was also the one who updated Swine Suicide's page and most of the info surrounding the guys from Njiqahdda and their former projects (Flaskavsae, Glaciial, etc) ... On a brighter note, I was also the one who got to update Mystictorment's page to reflect Mercy Lord's conversion to Christianity (he now plays in Edificador), and the page for Dismas (Azrael, ex-Black Autumn) to reflect his conversion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 20:27:45 GMT -6
Hey dude! I haven't spoken with you since The Blackened Hymns days. Glad you found this place.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 21, 2015 20:42:05 GMT -6
Hey man! Glad you're here!
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Post by exo on May 17, 2016 19:30:05 GMT -6
Necrobump.
This is actually what brought me here. Had a brief interaction with the guy on one of the Hill to Die upon guys' FB page, and he offered me a copy of Acedia (which is the title of the new album), with full scans of booklet and lyrics (I have yet to delve into the lyrics). Said they hadn't been able to find a distributor that would touch it because it wasn't mastered to modern standards. Stumbled on to here googling Bleakwail trying to find out the other band members.
As a musical artistic statement, it holds up well. Well constructed and performed, with some slightly avant-garde flourishes in the vein of Leprous and Ihsahn's works from a decade ago. It's not bad at all, decently produced, though the high end borders on being harsh. No comment as yet on lyrics or the work as a philosophical statement......
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Post by Thomas Eversole on May 17, 2016 19:46:23 GMT -6
The one Bleakwail song I heard just sounded like a generic Antestor Martyrium.
What you described sounds interesting musically though...
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Post by Deepfriar on May 17, 2016 19:48:31 GMT -6
Oddly enough I have "Songs of Sorrow" coming in the mail right now... snagged it on Discogs... been waiting a couple weeks actually. Should be here soon from overseas.
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Post by exo on May 17, 2016 20:38:45 GMT -6
The one Bleakwail song I heard just sounded like a generic Antestor Martyrium. What you described sounds interesting musically though... Keys, winds, sax with a bit of a jazzy thing going, but with a "blacker" vibe than the Leprous or Ihsahn's stuff. Jaakko has repeatedly dropped Ulver's Nattens Madrigal as an influence as well. I wouldn't know how apt the comparison is, as that's one of the many, many oldschool, influential things I SHOULD have listened to by now, but haven't because of how busy life with so many kids gets...... He's also repeatedly said they aren't happy with their "terrible" first release. If that's got to do with lyrical stance, performance, recording/production, I don't know. I just know that one of the reasons he sent me Acedia was my lack of familiarity with them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 12:14:43 GMT -6
Guess I have a reason to resurrect this thread now...
Someone by the name of "Jaakko Salomaa" commented on my upload of Bleakwail's EP on YouTube saying that the new album "Acedia" (which might have finally been released according to MA) is a Christian album. It obviously is not a Christian album according to the Nordicfest forum thread I linked towards the beginning of this thread, and I'm fairly sure that the guy who left that comment is the same guy who made those posts.
So, what do you guys think? Should I delete the comment? Disable comments on the video? Remove the video entirely? Do nothing? I don't really know what to do and I don't want people to be misled by this guy.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Dec 3, 2017 13:46:18 GMT -6
So, what do you guys think? Should I delete the comment? Disable comments on the video? Remove the video entirely? Do nothing? I don't really know what to do and I don't want people to be misled by this guy. Personally I'd just remove the video and not give Bleakwail more attention. But it's your channel. Honestly it'd probably be the safest bet. The dude's not hard to figure out, he thrives on attention just like any other rookie troll who leaps at any mention of his own name. I'm pretty tempted to purposely post some "I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS GUY!!!" or "WHO DOES HE THINK HE'S FOOLING" "GET BACK SATAN!" stuff on here, just to bait him back and watch him squeal with joy over how he's confounded and bothered all the silly Christians etc, but honestly, stuff like that is a habit I need to get out of. And so does Jacob, but anyway. Also, Jaakko Salomaa is his real name as proven on his band's public FB page. Every instance you see of "Jaakko" talking to Bleakwail is Jacob talking to himself.
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Post by grendel on Dec 3, 2017 14:55:04 GMT -6
hm - could one resurrect the discussion? as I remember, Jaakko said that Bleakwail as a band was "Christian", that the other band members stayed Christian und so, "Acedia" was a "Christian" Album with Christian lyrics - only just: those "Christian" lyrics were written by a self-estimated Satanist who fished for Attention - and the other band members did not know about that Satanism at that time... So what is truth? [???] I liked the Music of Acedia with its a bit unconventional touch - but I agree: I had a bad Feeling while listening to it, especially at two of the Songs, so I didn't listen to the Album for 3,5 years...
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Dec 3, 2017 15:02:16 GMT -6
"Acedia" was a "Christian" Album with Christian lyrics I heard that some of the lyrics were written before he "converted", and some were written afterward. He posted some of them online and "challenged" people to tell him which ones were which. I can't remember the URL, but I remember looking at the page, and it being extremely easy to tell the difference.
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