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Post by _ on Jul 8, 2018 7:09:31 GMT -6
When do you typically go to sleep and wake up? And do you usually sleep through the night and if not, how much are you usually awake (asked for Thomas Eversole, say, how are your urges throughout the night -- any better?)?
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 9, 2018 15:41:37 GMT -6
how are your urges throughout the night -- any better? Its turtles all the way down bro. T-T
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 9, 2018 15:58:36 GMT -6
So.... my brother's/parent's church apparently is 1 chromosome away from putting computer chips into Sunday School attendees. I know this "tracking" is not that serious (yet) because while I cropped the name, its definitely NOT a real name... (that got sent to me by my mom for the lawls) My questions would be.... "why?" I mean - is there an issue of people just wandering around in the Sunday School labyrinth and they don't have the social skills to communicate where they need to go? If it not logged by computer to track attendee presence and whereabouts, it it just seems like a waste of stationary (tithe money) to me. If it IS logged by computer to track attendee presence and whereabouts (real names and aliases), then what's the purpose of Big Brother-ing the church up? Its already corporate enough...
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jul 9, 2018 20:07:19 GMT -6
I find it silly that they'd even entertain the idea when there's so much skepticism about RFID chips. No matter what you think of them, there's no denying there's a LOT of worry about them right now.
....... And now a church is apparently planning to do something similar to Sunday School kids!
Maybe it really is time for me to start playing up that whole "Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship" thing like the South American scene is doing. It's a well-worn phrase to my ears (regardless of how true it is) but man, I just hate the thought of people looking at a church and thinking Christianity has anything to do with "C'MERE KIDS! GET YOUR COMPUTER CHIPS!!!"
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 10, 2018 10:42:29 GMT -6
I don't want to give the impression that my brother's/parent's church are preparing to chip kids. Its just when the "name tags" got codes and data (SS, 2G2), my opinion, it looks like its heading that direction.... That church also has a "coffee bar" in their main lobby. No its not free - there's a barista and I'm sure they're paid, just like the coffee is paid for...
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 10, 2018 10:45:23 GMT -6
I find it silly that they'd even entertain the idea when there's so much skepticism about RFID chips. Vaccines as well. Its a trust issue - the population doesn't trust (for lack of better words) "the man" wanting to put something in their body. Education about what it is, what its doing, how it works, etc. might help.... but I think some people would still dispute its necessity...
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jul 10, 2018 15:39:19 GMT -6
Oh, thank goodness. I misunderstood I thought you were saying, this was all actually leading up to implanting chips into kids for a Sunday School class, lolol
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 10, 2018 17:30:02 GMT -6
I'll take partial blame. "1 chromosome away" was definitely an exaggeration. My dad has told me a million times not to exaggerate. [flying]
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Post by _ on Jul 12, 2018 9:12:41 GMT -6
i mightve already asked this and forgot but anyone use twitter?
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jul 12, 2018 12:42:35 GMT -6
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Post by _ on Jul 12, 2018 18:07:05 GMT -6
oh snap that activity last month
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jul 12, 2018 19:44:50 GMT -6
Well, I have little use for Twitter, lol. Anyone I could follow on there, I can just check up on somewhere else. (I follow several people, but that's just to be nice, I don't actually........ read any of their posts lolol I feel like a bad person now) The Twitter community, as far as I can tell, is full of rabid pseudo-intellectual political psychopaths, and I have no interest in tweeting every single thought I have or everything I do in a day.
So basically the only thing it's good for, is retweeting charity hashtags and checking the Wendy's Twitter account.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 30, 2018 14:46:39 GMT -6
The Twitter community, as far as I can tell, is full of rabid pseudo-intellectual political psychopaths, and I have no interest in tweeting every single thought I have or everything I do in a day. I like the analogy that Twitter is the public bathroom stall wall of the internet. Anything you put there, is pure "thinking out loud", and is FOREVER. If it wasn't forever, people wouldn't be fired TODAY for what they said 10 years ago and apologized for 8 years ago. (Google search "James Gunn") ____________________ My random question, is it weird that my wife and mother in law will talk about my pooping and my poop itself? I don't think it is at all. Its a "nurse for 7 years" and a "nurse for 30 years" discussing concern and legitimate medical aspects of a loved one who is a colon cancer survivor.... but if I had a little bit outlook (outsider perspective), I'd think it was too weird. ....but I don't think its weird. Is it weird that I don't think its weird? I don't think its weird that I don't think its weird. Lord, please help me - this post has already gone to hell.... [rofl]
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Post by _ on Jul 30, 2018 14:51:39 GMT -6
The Twitter community, as far as I can tell, is full of rabid pseudo-intellectual political psychopaths, and I have no interest in tweeting every single thought I have or everything I do in a day. I like the analogy that Twitter is the public bathroom stall wall of the internet. Anything you put there, is pure "thinking out loud", and is FOREVER. If it wasn't forever, people wouldn't be fired TODAY for what they said 10 years ago and apologized for 8 years ago. (Google search "James Gunn") ____________________ My random question, is it weird that my wife and mother in law will talk about my pooping and my poop itself? I don't think it is at all. Its a "nurse for 7 years" and a "nurse for 30 years" discussing concern and legitimate medical aspects of a loved one who is a colon cancer survivor.... but if I had a little bit outlook (outsider perspective), I'd think it was too weird. ....but I don't think its weird. Is it weird that I don't think its weird? I don't think its weird that I don't think its weird. Lord, please help me - this post has already gone to hell.... [rofl] hahahahahahaha, I don't think it's weird. and i think this post is glorious.
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Post by _ on Nov 17, 2018 21:14:38 GMT -6
Confident I want to ask: what Christian bands have a similar sound to Broken Flesh? Not confident I want to ask: how often do you guys pray for me?
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 18, 2018 7:40:31 GMT -6
how often do you guys pray for me? Daily. Meaning, at least once a day. (though I think I missed a day or two praying for others while in extreme pain - November week of tooth-hell, September's dick surgery, etc.) Its not like 20 minutes of warbound praying, but more like a few minutes? _______________________ I'm looking for a story in the bible and I can't seem to find it. It's a story I heard as a kid. Some dude in the Bible, invites someone into his tent to try to point him toward salvation. When this person doesn't get it, dude kicks him out of his tent. God is then like "How could you kick him out after 1 day when I've been trying to see his salvation for 70 years?" Anyone know what verse this is or what story I'm referring to?
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 18, 2018 12:18:20 GMT -6
Confident I want to ask: what Christian bands have a similar sound to Broken Flesh? Christian bands I voted as "similar" to Broken Flesh, on Metal Archives, are: Tortured Conscience, Disarticulating Extinguishment, Disencumbrance, Obliteration, and Horcrvx. Ones voted by other people include: Abated Mass of Flesh, Impending Doom, Crimson Thorn, Not Under Sin, Taking the Head of Goliath, Encryptor, Ministros del santuario, Inhabit, Embodyment, Revulsed, Rogers Met an Iranian (???????), Spirits Breeze, Grave Defier, Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and Abrogar. Edit: Woah, Abrogar are intense. Not confident I want to ask: how often do you guys pray for me? As often as I remember to pray for "people-who-aren't-me" in the first place. Which admittedly is something I need to work on.
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Post by _ on Nov 18, 2018 19:13:26 GMT -6
^Thank you both very much. NI, I've checked out some of those bands and will listen more. Thomas, I'm not sure which Bible verses are described by your note.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 20, 2018 14:17:19 GMT -6
I've been researching Christian fundamentalism and Christian extremism/radicalism and I think I may have noticed something. Using different dictionaries, a Christian fundamentalist is (across the board) defined as someone who adheres to a strict set of principles, teachings, doctrine, etc. and this is their beliefs. A Christian extremist is someone who also adheres to a strict set of principles/beliefs/doctrine, but will "do something negative" in regards to someone who does not share the same values. (and something negative doesn't have to be related to violence)
That being said, - it appears to me extremists are fundimentalists as well, but fundamentalists are not necessarily extremists. - "something negative" is very broad
Would you guys agree that if a Lutheran believer denounced their friendship (they no longer speak) with a Pentecostal believer over doctrinal differences, that this Lutheran crossed the line from fundamentalism to extremism?
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 20, 2018 19:28:40 GMT -6
If someone truly 100% genuinely believes that is what the Bible is telling them to do, no.
The obvious elephant in the room with "extremism" is terrorist groups like ISIS. And from what little I've seen, it seems like they appeal to emotions a lot. Like when I preach my non-extremist views, I use historical evidence, reasoning, linguistics, etc. Meanwhile extremists like ISIS use "we gave ice cream to Syrian kids on a video, lol!" as their defense. I don't doubt they've convinced themselves their beliefs are true, but if they took an objective, introspective look at themselves, I also believe the vast majority of them would find their faith was built on the shakiest sand conceivable. They have no devotion to "Allah", they're devoted to "feeling like they belong to something" and "riding emotional highs".
On the other hand, if someone can read the Quran and truly, objectively, believe in their heart of hearts, REGARDLESS OF FEELINGS, that 1) it's correct, and 2) it tells them to attack places on holy days in Islam as ISIS have done, then ...... hahaha, I have a LOT of questions for that person, but even though they are obviously wrong, I would not use the term "extremist" to describe them.
Following that train of thought, if a Christian does something ridiculous (whether it's "refusing to speak with fellow believers" or "blowing up buildings") and after a careful analysis of Scripture, believes that that is what the Bible is telling them to do, again, I disagree with them, but I wouldn't use the term "extremist".
Effectively I perceive "extremists" as emotion-driven people whose connections to their alleged "beliefs" are surface-deep, and are purely means to an end. They have no devotion to any deity, real or perceived. It's not so much the "what" that makes me think of them as an extremist, but the "why".
I understand this is a fairly unconventional and pedantic definition of the word "extremism".
Edit: Out of sheer paranoia, I feel the need to make it very clear that I abhor terrorism in all its forms. I am an analytical person -- choosing not to call some things "extremism" doesn't make me abhor those things any less.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 21, 2018 7:36:49 GMT -6
The concencus on this theology discord (I asked the same question there) is that "something negative" is very broad ...is TOO broad. I mean, someone disagreeing with someone else's theology could be construed as "something negative", but that isn't extremism. They thought extremism was directly tied to extreme violence or some kind of political something (I don't know I stopped paying attention) but.... they adhered to the typical model of the word. (extremists are like ISIS) All stigmas off the table, I thought the definition of the word would be a perfect descriptor of the X games. (extreme sports) While I think disagreeing over theology to the point of segregating Christians even further is a very cut-off-your-nose-to-see-your-face-better approach to a "Christian community", I concede that this wouldn't be extremism. I think its just good old-fashioned Christians being dicks.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 21, 2018 8:46:45 GMT -6
There's an ICCT (International Centre for Counter Terrorism) document that has information regarding non-violent extremism. Called the EMI-20 (Google search "extremism emi-20" to read about it) which is a Extremism Monitoring Instrument used by.... well, there's quite a few sources. Anyway..... One of these characteristics stood out to me
"Exhibit intolerance to all views other than their own dogmatic one and express this in anger, aggressive behaviour and hate speech;"
So, in short, extremism is not exclusive to violence, but anger and aggression are necessary ingredients to the recipe. That being said, refusing to speak to someone after a theological disagreement would NOT be extremism.... but injecting anger (rage?) and aggression into the mix, WOULD.
Whether this is actually a form of extremism, or its just some Christians being dicks to other Christians.... pretty much 6 of one thing, half a dozen of another. Its the same problem irregardless of what its called...
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Post by _ on Nov 24, 2018 15:33:22 GMT -6
Who did the Corpse song on Hymns Vol. 1? It's dope.
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Post by anfauglith on Nov 25, 2018 11:03:45 GMT -6
A person I knew in the past sent me an e-mail... we, my wife and I, had quite some struggle with her, and it was really an annoying thing. She has sent me or us mails before, I always answered them in a more or less polite but nonbinding manner. This time she asked for forgivness for the trouble she caused. Now I don't know what to do. Maybe someone here as an advice? I don't know if she really is sorry. But anyway, I want to forgive, but I don't want to revive that contact. So... should I send another nice mail?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 11:07:46 GMT -6
You should probably email her back. It would be a good way to have closure over that whole situation.
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Post by anfauglith on Nov 25, 2018 11:13:51 GMT -6
Yes, thank you.
I`m asking me if it's very selfish and unchristian if I decide to "just" e-mail her back. I think a contact in person would do no good to no one. I will not deny forgiveness, but I think it's the better thing to keep the distance. I don't know, if that is a contradiction.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 11:41:03 GMT -6
I don't think there's a problem with that, especially if your primary contact in the past has been through email as well.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Nov 25, 2018 11:58:34 GMT -6
Who did the Corpse song on Hymns Vol. 1? It's dope. I want to say the member of that band, who belongs/belonged here, was Jeff, but I'm not 100% sure anymore. Can't remember his username. I`m asking me if it's very selfish and unchristian if I decide to "just" e-mail her back. I think a contact in person would do no good to no one. I will not deny forgiveness, but I think it's the better thing to keep the distance. I don't know, if that is a contradiction. I don't think it would be unchristian at all.
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Post by anfauglith on Nov 25, 2018 12:23:16 GMT -6
Thank you! Before all the trouble happened we had real life contact and communication. But I assume the risk that all that shitty stuff will happen again and we will have to go through all the arguments again is too high for me to take it up again. This person is highly unpredictable.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Nov 25, 2018 17:08:49 GMT -6
I`m asking me if it's very selfish and unchristian if I decide to "just" e-mail her back. Nah, that just sounds smart to me. It would save you and your wife on some stress, maybe even that person. (if they're unpredictable, maybe they have trouble with self control and don't like "causing problems".) I think there's a way to not close the door to a single communication, but also not be inviting to a unpredictable situation. Can't remember his username. It was JeffCorpse here, but.... one of many accounts removed due to months of no activity.
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