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Suicide
Jul 22, 2018 13:03:27 GMT -6
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Post by _ on Jul 22, 2018 13:03:27 GMT -6
I thought this was important enough to live outsideof the random questions thread. The title is fairly general so let's talk about any partocular aspect of suicide. For starters (and the reason I made this thread), does anyone currently struggle with suicidality? Please let me know so i can intentionally pray for you.
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Suicide
Jul 23, 2018 16:25:50 GMT -6
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 23, 2018 16:25:50 GMT -6
I wanted to reply to this thread when I first saw it, but I was belly aching so much, I was afraid there would be too much spin.
One of the jokes from Louis CK's 2017 special has a bit of truth to it. Life is just a bunch of people who decided not to kill themselves today. "I guess I'll keep doing it."
The context of the joke was funny, but I know this is definitely not intended to be a funny thread.
The "counselor in training" work I did for a drug and alcohol outpatient facility, for whatever that's worth, seemed to think the iron wasn't quite hot enough if someone just wanted to die. Thoughts revolving around a suicide plan though, require immediate action with the gusto of a highest priority.
I've had 2 attempts in the past myself. How serious those attempts were is hard to gauge because alcohol was massively involved. My thoughts on suicide have ranged from borderline humor, to "serious".
I've never made a plan though. (ie: I'm gonna buy some rope tomorrow, check places to hang it from when I get home, etc.)
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Suicide
Jul 23, 2018 20:28:21 GMT -6
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Post by _ on Jul 23, 2018 20:28:21 GMT -6
Yeah, dawg, thanks for posting.
I actually really appreciate that Louis CK bit and, as usual, he has some solid teachings in there. I REALLY like the whole "you have thoughts? about suicide!?!?!? strap him down!' or however he says it. i hate that bullshit response that keeps people from talking about suicide.
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Post by Deepfriar on Jul 26, 2018 18:34:51 GMT -6
Never dabbled in it too seriously. Had considerations when I was a teen/early 20's, but never really made a full-blown 'attempt'. I did other things though, like burning my fingers with a lighter. I think these kinds of things are demonic, if you want the truth. I would seek prayer from pastor/elders of your home church if you are struggling with these thoughts/ideas as an adult. It's not something to ignore.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jul 26, 2018 22:13:52 GMT -6
Possibly controversial thought: I think it would do a world of good to stop romanticizing suicide in our culture. We treat it as THE. ULTIMATE. THING. and I don't think that's a healthy way to view what's ultimately an emotion-based action. I genuinely feel that a lot would be achieved if we STOPPED treating suicide so extremely seriously. If we genuinely made suicide seem unappealing. Instead of trembling before it like some unshakeable thing we need to treat with reverence, SHOW the suicidal that we have POWER over it -- like people did with the Tide Pod challenge, or any other preventable thing that kills people. Because when someone is lonely, when they feel they have nothing to live for, etc, they can either be convinced to FIND something to live for, or "go out with a bang" and "end it all" and (insert dramatic hyperbole here). The way we paint suicide in our culture makes it seem... appealing, in a way. It gives more power to suicide than it deserves. ESPECIALLY when a celebrity does it, but also when anybody does it, from a friend or family member, to a classmate, to... anybody.
Keep in mind too, this isn't a random thought of mine. I've self-harmed and had suicidal thoughts a couple times, too. Not recently at all, but I have before. And I know shifting our culture's view of suicide won't entirely solve it, but it'll do a lot.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jul 27, 2018 12:55:21 GMT -6
I REALLY like the whole "you have thoughts? about suicide!?!?!? strap him down!' or however he says it. "Folks" will rush in and.... "Hold him down!!!!" LOLOLOL i hate that bullshit response that keeps people from talking about suicide. I've been to one psychiatrist yeeeeeeeeeears ago. ....then there's my experience being a CIT. I can't vouch for all professionals, at all facilities in all scenarios - but I have a hunch that "the entertainment industry" exaggerates that 'rushing in and holding them down' being a thing. My wife likes watching these medical drama shows. Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, The Good Doctor, Night Shift, etc. About every few episodes, she blows up and screams at the TV because they're doing something that makes absolutely no sense regarding procedure. (as a charge nurse in the ICU, she knows what's actually done in those situations) My hunch is its very similar in the psychiatric field. I would think "folks" wouldn't "rush in" from verbiage alone - they'd have to be DOING something, like chewing on the furniture or taking apart a lamp so they can stab themselves with it. Probably not enough resources to send "them" in if Do you think about suicide? Yes. ...was all it took.
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Post by blake on Aug 8, 2018 8:13:01 GMT -6
I have had passing thoughts in times past but they typically get dismissed rather quickly. I have been battling some depression myself lately but I have not found myself looking at this as an option. Just this week I had seen a post shared on facebook of someone who i didnt know that took his own life, was a fellow hearse owner and he made a massive, super-long post on his facebook right before taking his life. The post was pretty heartbreaking, talking about how everyone knew he struggled with suicidal tendencies and deep depression and while people would tell him that they would be there for him to talk to anytime he needed to talk, every time he reached out for help they wanted him to come to them.
Its sad that when people are hurting and reaching out for help, many of us want to help, but only if we can do so comfortably without having to inconvenience ourselves. I didnt know they guy, but his story was eye opening.
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Post by blake on Aug 9, 2018 9:11:54 GMT -6
I have had passing thoughts in times past but they typically get dismissed rather quickly. I have been battling some depression myself lately but I have not found myself looking at this as an option. Just this week I had seen a post shared on facebook of someone who i didnt know that took his own life, was a fellow hearse owner and he made a massive, super-long post on his facebook right before taking his life. The post was pretty heartbreaking, talking about how everyone knew he struggled with suicidal tendencies and deep depression and while people would tell him that they would be there for him to talk to anytime he needed to talk, every time he reached out for help they wanted him to come to them. Its sad that when people are hurting and reaching out for help, many of us want to help, but only if we can do so comfortably without having to inconvenience ourselves. I didnt know they guy, but his story was eye opening. Correction, I did some research and it would seem im not battling depression, but despair. I'm sure it will pass in time, but suicide has never been an option for me and I dont expect it will be.
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