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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 1, 2019 14:17:48 GMT -6
"Someone is wrong on the internet" and "wall-o-text" often go hand in hand. The unfortunate thing about this is, the more information there is to sort out - the higher the chance that something will be missed.
I am pointing the finger at none other than myself. I will leave it to others to determine if what I'm saying is applicable to them.
Deciphering tone and intent from "just text" is hard. Add life, health and other distractions to the mix, those interpretations can be skewed, only adding to the difficulty.
There are times when adequate participation requires a lengthy reply. ...but other times, not being succinct or concise gives exhaustion instead of explanation. What's long enough and what's too long, is subjective. Per topic, per person.
That being said, moving forward - I'm going to make an effort to say more, with less words. This means if I'm wrong, typing less will minimize an "epic rant". If I'm right, it will be a point easily digested. If I'm neither wrong or right, it will be less "work", therefore, less stress.
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Post by _ on Mar 1, 2019 17:58:12 GMT -6
I think it is a handy skill to develop. I’m trying to get better at this, particularly with verbal speech.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Mar 1, 2019 19:44:54 GMT -6
I've always understood this in theory, but it's strangely difficult to put into practice, and I can't figure out why.
I sometimes try to cut down some of the larger forum/blog/etc posts that I make, but often find a lot of content still there. Maybe it's because I feel that extra text is necessary, otherwise people won't understand what I'm trying to say. Covering all the bases before the person has a chance to reply, so to speak.
Is that necessary? I don't know.
But you are also correct in pointing out that that extra text may cause more confusion and exhaustion instead.
I have very poor social skills.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 1, 2019 20:18:11 GMT -6
I have my work to thank for my skill already with verbal speech. Where I'm supposed to have an average handle time of 2m45s - I can't afford many detours with my questions. Work helps not have uh's and um's as part of my vocabulary too. XD
I took Business English in college. There was a lot of emphasis on writing very brief. ...vaguely recalling a few examples of correspondence paragraphs in length, reduced to a few sentences.
I do notice with that I type, a pattern regarding amount of emotion + amount of text. Revisiting my prior posts on behalf of my own character improvement is good for me I think... ...but obviously, this wasn't realized until it was realized.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 1, 2019 20:19:29 GMT -6
it's strangely difficult to put into practice, and I can't figure out why. My theory... all the other English classes I took that encouraged writing more. I have very poor social skills. Why do you say that bro?
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Mar 1, 2019 21:28:35 GMT -6
Years of experience.
The underground metal community is kind of "built" on vagueness and brevity, which are fairly natural to me, so I probably come across as "fine".
Outside of this, and a couple other places where I already know people really well, I have basically no idea what I'm doing with regards to "people".
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Post by Deepfriar on Mar 1, 2019 22:48:29 GMT -6
Outside of this, and a couple other places where I already know people really well, I have basically no idea what I'm doing with regards to "people". It's all right man, none of us do to a certain extent. Everyone is different and you never know what will happen with social interactions. I'm pretty awkward myself in real life. I do well professionally, dealing with the public... but find that making meaningful connections eludes me most of the time. I've made dysfunctional messes of a few friendships and mostly just chill at home instead of going out. When my daughter gets here in July, I imagine things will radically change. I just hope I survive the parent teacher meetings and the basketball games and the social gatherings. I'm rather aloof and on the fringes of modern society. We need to find a home church because it's very important to me to raise a child in church... but we have already tried out several and just can't seem to feel at home for one reason or another. It's sad to not be able to find a church in the Bible belt. I could be slightly jaded because the last church we were getting involved in and beginning to be comfortable at, we found out the pastor was plagiarizing sermons and claiming he got them from God. Ouch. It's hard to find a church that preaches Christ and not religion around here too.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 2, 2019 8:28:11 GMT -6
Outside of this, and a couple other places where I already know people really well, I have basically no idea what I'm doing with regards to "people". I'm pretty awkward myself in real life. I do well professionally, dealing with the public... but find that making meaningful connections eludes me most of the time. I've made dysfunctional messes of a few friendships and mostly just chill at home instead of going out. While I was trying to get sober from alcoholism, I ended up going to treatment/rehab 5 times. They don't like you to leave if they think you're going to drink - but I was able to wear masks and be a social chameleon so I could leave when I wanted, not when they wanted. In a way, I wasted a lot of my own time. In another way, all of this as my "getting sober" story, taught me a valuable lesson. I believe I COULD have a strong network of local friends... but I don't; by choice. I've had a series of friends that I've spent a lot of time with and they're still friends. I just don't see them but once a year (if that) anymore. Its not them, its me. "Hanging out" with folks all the time is not for me. I prefer my solitude, and I don't believe there's anything wrong with that.
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