Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 16:32:46 GMT -6
Now Here is where I stand on this. I think the Illuminati crap is just that CRAP. Conspiracy Theory. However there are people who are absolutely OBSESSED with this topic. One person I came in contact with has pretty much come out and said that MOST Christian artists are actually Illuminati and stated a handful of supposedly COMPLETELY AUTHENTIC Christian bands as a way of making an Illuminati Free list.
Now this person ACTUALLY called me an Illuminati because I think he is OCD with this topic and is LOOKING For Evil rather than FOCUSING on Christ and spreading his word. He thinks that Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant are actually satanic. The whole thing was so over the top as to be flat out stupid yet there ARE PEOPLE who are focusing so much in and OCD fashion about this that they are completely missing what Christ is actually telling us as believers to do.
Am I crazy or is there really something to this Illuminati invading Christian music?
Honestly to answer my own question I think there IS NOTHING MORE to this than another "Hells Bells" attempt to tear down Christian metal and looking for evil instead of looking for those who NEED Christ. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK?
|
|
|
Post by Thomas Eversole on Jun 11, 2015 21:39:27 GMT -6
I COMPLETELY agree in regards to the Illuminati.
See, I have a fascination with cryptids/monsters/giants because there seems to be much legitimacy to it. Eye witness sightings, old newspaper articles (giants), video from THOUSANDS of reliable witnesses (a.k.a. church going people, not just the local speedfreak), etc.
What do we have of the illuminati? TRUE history shows it was just a branch off the FreeMasons.
What its turned into is modern day hoaxers (with too much free time, mental illness and YouTube accounts) forgetting to take their meds and seeing the illustration on the back of a dollar bill (with the pyramid/eye) and thinking that every winking celebrity is referencing "the Illuminati" as some sort of underground dwelling race of baby eating reptile people (which includes George Bush and Queen Elizabeth).
Yeah.
Mr. Versaw, you are NOT crazy. There are NO legitimate, reliable sources of information regarding this brand of "Illuminati" except for out of context quotes, gestures and video editing.
Look, I can play this game too. I just saw a man with diabetes bend over in front of a garbage can in a Big Lots parking lot and he was winking while saying "Stanley Pantly! Stanley Pantly!". Holy Burt Reynolds was I almost captured by the Illuminati just then. Luckily I captured a low quality video of his face so I can make an offset duplicate to make it look like he's got slit pupils, being the shapeshifting reptile in disguise that he is.
I think I'll NOT eat at McDonalds again because Michael W Smith has been there and the golden M is just W turned upside down because burgers are round like eyes and the Illuminati is going to kill us all.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 12, 2015 16:49:12 GMT -6
I think it's crucial and biblical to be aware and on guard against the evil plots of the wicked and expose the deceptions that are blinding many. No doubt some of the big selling Christian music scene has already been infiltrated by the Illuminati, in some degree, if not it's even more likely to be controlled by a religious spirit if it's coming from the false Church system anyway. You cant join the bloodline Illuminati families, most of there many puppets in every sector of society have no idea who they really serve, they just do it for the money. "In the last days, God will judge these three interlocking Babylons (or Babylonian systems). They are 1) Financial Babylon; 2)Political Babylon; and 3) Religious Babylon. Financial Babylon controls not only the finances of the world, but any resource that can translate into wealth: precious metals, gems, energy (oil, electric, nuclear power, etc.), water, food, medicine, illegal drugs, media, education, and even people (remember, in Babylon, people are considered a resource). This financial control is established through an international, centralized banking system operated solely by the Elite. Nations no longer manage their currencies; they are handled through this central banking system. The Federal Reserve is no more controlled by the government than is Federal Express. Doc Marquis points out in his video series, The Secrets of the Illuminati, that all the nations involved in the War on Terror or those that are part of the Arab Spring (i.e., Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.) refused to become a part of the international, centralized banking system of the Rothschild dynasty. The turmoil within those nations is designed to change the governmental regimes to ones that will be more compliant to the control of their finances by Financial Babylon (with the side benefit of inflating the price of oil, another control mechanism). Usually, the first part of nation building that the US assists with, after the change in regimes, is the establishment of a centralized banking system. I also believe that Financial Babylon is the most powerful of the three. Finances build political parties, fuel elections, sway politicians’ votes, control who gains media coverage, and even control which ministries move into prominence and whose messages are suppressed (although the Internet is currently giving voice to many faithful ministries today). " continue here kingdomintelligencebriefing.com/shinar-directive-part-7/
|
|
|
Post by Thomas Eversole on Jun 13, 2015 7:58:58 GMT -6
I think it's crucial and biblical to be aware and on guard against the evil plots of the wicked and expose the deceptions that are blinding many. No doubt some of the big selling Christian music scene has already been infiltrated by the Illuminati, in some degree, if not it's even more likely to be controlled by a religious spirit if it's coming from the false Church system anyway. You cant join the bloodline Illuminati families, most of there many puppets in every sector of society have no idea who they really serve, they just do it for the money. Oh no James, not you too! I agree that we should be aware of evil plots of the wicked, but what REAL evidence is there of this "New World Order"? All I've seen is theories and claims of theories. I haven't seen one solid or convincing piece of evidence outside of speculation. Maybe I'm not one to hold much on theories since one of the most popular ones said I came from a monkey, and that monkey came from a booger in a rain puddle millions of years ago.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 13, 2015 17:51:02 GMT -6
start here...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 18:22:03 GMT -6
Now that is retarded. I watched on tv that day as those planes HIT the towers. The whole conspiracy theory that somehow someone else blew up the towers and somehow did so with some kind of photo shop airplanes that suddenly vanished is stupid. How in the world can anyone even suggest that some how MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who saw the planes were all hallucinating and that somehow someone blew them up some other way.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 18:27:04 GMT -6
Not to mention that what I was watching as it happened was live, so how in the world could any LIVE film have been doctored like they claim. These are just people who are hell bent on placing the blame on whoever it is they don't like.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 18:48:52 GMT -6
And by the way I don't a single word of that video as it was nothing more than another conspiracy theorist looking for a payday off of the loss of Thousands of lives.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 13, 2015 18:49:01 GMT -6
All your questions are answered in the video above. So how do aluminum and fiber glass planes cut through steel collums and leave wing cuts road runner style and pop out the other side with a flat nose? Look at the evidence and facts. If you believe that the bible tells us about there agenda, how do you think that could come about without some very wealthy people that have a lot of control and sway, plus the devils help?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 18:53:17 GMT -6
I saw that video. There is nothing there but suggestions guesses and trying to make a buck off of the loss of Thousands of Lives in an effort to try to make his conspiracy theory appear to be real. Another witchhunt.
Yes I do believe that the antiChrist will trick and fool people and rise to power and institute His mark of the beast. I don't believe he needs any help doing so either. Nor do I believe about 99% of all conspiracy theories. And I find it quite frankly sick that people are profiting off of tragedy by writing books making movies and creating crap like this.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 18:54:22 GMT -6
And again photo shopping ANYTHING requires time to do it after the fact. Live video feeds cannot be photo shopped as they happen and what I saw that day was live feeds as it happened.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 13, 2015 20:34:40 GMT -6
Three lines of evidence the dynamics of the building destruction, evidence for high temperatures, and discovery of nanothermite in the WTC dust) + strong evidence of a coverup indicate that the official story of 9/11 is false. This is not conspiracy theory. This is hard evidence. Honesty requires that we be willing to follow the evidence.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 13, 2015 20:44:10 GMT -6
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 20:46:15 GMT -6
Again I have not seen legit evidence from legit people who were not conspriacy chasers. There is NO evidence of Illuminati, there is no evidence that our government is purposely killing their own people just to pull off some war just to control another country as these conspiracy chasers claim. You can't photo shop live tv on the air while the camera is rolling. I was watching the news when this happened I watched the LIVE ROLLING FEED. Not the news later in the day the LIVE AS IT HAPPENED ON AIR FEED. It was no different than all of the video from later in the day. IF there were some magic BALL then where is it? Where is the PROOF of that? What about the people on those airplanes that died? If there were no planes WHERE ARE THEY AND HOW DID THEY DIE? There were people on the phone with their loved ones as this happened you can't tell me that they just decided to fake their own death to a part of some elaborate hoax. And honestly I find it very disrespectful to even suggest such a thing. What if it was your wife or your Dad or your Mom who were on those planes and killed? Would you still claim that they were somehow a part of an elaborate hoax? Again there is NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE OR VIDEO PROOF THAT IT WAS NOT THE AIRPLANES WE ALL HERE IN THE USA SAW WITH OUR OWN EYES. And those who are making these videos and making these outlandish claims are the same people who make the videos calling Christian music evil somehow. That in and of itself should tell you something.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 20:53:54 GMT -6
Dude THERE IS NO ILLLUMINATI. It is just a conspiracy theory to cause people to take their focus off of Christ and instead focus on these conspiracy theories. Do you really think that satan really NEEDS some sort of illuminati in order to cause the antichrist and the beast to rise up and take over? He has already been given the means to control this world all he wants he really doesn't need any help other than to distract us from our focus on Christ. In fact in all reality conspiracy theories like the Illuminati and the USA GOVERNMENT IS KIILING EVERYONE AND USING PHOTO SHOP ON LIVE TV WAY BACK WHEN THE INTERNET WAS BARELY AROUND. blah blah blah. The ARE the distractions that satan is using to pull off what is needed for the reign of the anti christ to come about.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 20:57:28 GMT -6
Why do people insist on looking for evil in places where it isn't these people try to tear down Christian music and Christian metal for a reason. They are trying to prevent the word of God from going where it needs to go. There is a reason these people try to tear us apart with conspiracy theories. They are trying to take our eyes off of Christ. So why fall into their Trap?
|
|
|
Post by Varg on Jun 14, 2015 11:28:39 GMT -6
Why do people insist on looking for evil in places where it isn't these people try to tear down Christian music and Christian metal for a reason. They are trying to prevent the word of God from going where it needs to go. There is a reason these people try to tear us apart with conspiracy theories. They are trying to take our eyes off of Christ. So why fall into their Trap? I think you hit the nail on the head right here.
|
|
|
Post by Thomas Eversole on Jun 14, 2015 21:39:26 GMT -6
In regards to aluminum and fiberglass cutting through steel, with enough velocity, it could happen. Actually, with enough velocity, you can cut rock with water - so this doesn't surprise me.
Even if this was a secret government doing, who's to say that its "The Illuminati", the secret agency that Christian artists and terrorists are side by side in? I don't believe it. There would be more about than just YouTube gold.
Bottom line, I think its just as dangerous to find/imagine hidden agenda from coincidence than it is to be completely unaware of surrounding evil.
|
|
|
Post by blake on Jun 15, 2015 15:30:29 GMT -6
Larry, I think I might know who you are talking about. There was a guy awhile back on the MBR facebook page who was posting about how he was asking bands "Are you a christian, or a christian mason?" or something along those lines, he would link screenshots of convos where you could tell the bands were really puzzled. One of the bands replied by telling him he should watch National Treasure, which sure enough the guy took as an admission of guilt.
Its good to be aware of whats going on in the world and no just consume everything given to us by the media, but I dont think we should obsess over it. I do enjoy reading about cryptozoology and stuff like not out of obsession, but I guess because I like a good mystery. although I am inclined to believe that the chupacabra is just a coyote with mange.
|
|
|
Post by Kerrick on Jun 15, 2015 15:43:32 GMT -6
although I am inclined to believe that the chupacabra is just a coyote with mange. So a few years ago, near Halloween, I was with a few friends in Borders book store and they had a Halloween display. In the display was a book of all the mythical creatures though my friend had never heard of the chupacabra. I was like, "really? You know, the goat sucker" to which she responded, "EW!!!" She thought there was some creature going around performing lewd acts on farm animals hahahahahaha... I still give her a hard time about that.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 16:31:14 GMT -6
In regards to aluminum and fiberglass cutting through steel, with enough velocity, it could happen. Actually, with enough velocity, you can cut rock with water - so this doesn't surprise me. Even if this was a secret government doing, who's to say that its "The Illuminati", the secret agency that Christian artists and terrorists are side by side in? I don't believe it. There would be more about than just YouTube gold. Bottom line, I think its just as dangerous to find/imagine hidden agenda from coincidence than it is to be completely unaware of surrounding evil. Exactly. Every heard of a Tornado? I have SEEN STRAW driven through a Tree. Now go and try to do that on your own. IMPOSSIBLE. But with the right velocity it not only can be but HAS been done. Now If you REALLY want to know ALL OF THOSE CLAIMS made in that youtube video that James shared HAVE ALL BEEN DEBUNKED anyway.
|
|
|
Post by Thomas Eversole on Jun 15, 2015 16:48:09 GMT -6
although I am inclined to believe that the chupacabra is just a coyote with mange. So a few years ago, near Halloween, I was with a few friends in Borders book store and they had a Halloween display. In the display was a book of all the mythical creatures though my friend had never heard of the chupacabra. I was like, "really? You know, the goat sucker" to which she responded, "EW!!!" She thought there was some creature going around performing lewd acts on farm animals hahahahahaha... I still give her a hard time about that. HAHA!!! Goat "sucker". If that were the case, there'd be a bunch of pervs looking for them to enlist their "services". LOL Speaking of the Chupacabra, I think a good chunk of witness sightings are a coyote (or a raccoon) with mange... ....but regardless of sightings, we still don't have an explanation of multiple cases of animals being drained of blood, with strange precision wounds.
|
|
|
Post by drawnsword on Jun 15, 2015 17:01:13 GMT -6
It is also actually impossible for the planes to have travelled at the speed shown in the footage, as the pilots and experts explain in this one... The Speed of Lies - Analysis of the Impossible Plane Speeds on 9/11 Here is what the official story wants you to swallow... 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory And here is what many people who were right there when it happened experianced with testimony and footage to prove it.... 9/11 Exposed - Full Documentary Film (2015) And here is the proof of the bankers elite families pre warning that they put in films because they have too in there religion... BACK TO THE FUTURE 9-11 prediction !!! [Illuminati Conspiracy]
|
|
|
Post by Ghoul on Jun 15, 2015 17:04:02 GMT -6
So a few years ago, near Halloween, I was with a few friends in Borders book store and they had a Halloween display. In the display was a book of all the mythical creatures though my friend had never heard of the chupacabra. I was like, "really? You know, the goat sucker" to which she responded, "EW!!!" She thought there was some creature going around performing lewd acts on farm animals hahahahahaha... I still give her a hard time about that. HAHA!!! Goat "sucker". If that were the case, there'd be a bunch of pervs looking for them to enlist their "services". LOL Speaking of the Chupacabra, I think a good chunk of witness sightings are a coyote (or a raccoon) with mange... ....but regardless of sightings, we still don't have an explanation of multiple cases of animals being drained of blood, with strange precision wounds. Vampires for sure
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 15:08:44 GMT -6
It is also actually impossible for the planes to have travelled at the speed shown in the footage, as the pilots and experts explain in this one... The Speed of Lies - Analysis of the Impossible Plane Speeds on 9/11 Here is what the official story wants you to swallow... 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory And here is what many people who were right there when it happened experianced with testimony and footage to prove it.... 9/11 Exposed - Full Documentary Film (2015) And here is the proof of the bankers elite families pre warning that they put in films because they have too in there religion... BACK TO THE FUTURE 9-11 prediction !!! [Illuminati Conspiracy] James this stuff has ALL ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED. Those vids you posted are all claims that have been debunked. If a tornado can drive a piece of straw through a tree at winds from 120 to 300 mph it is more than possible for an airplane to do the same through a tower. And keep in mind that those building may be steel but those windows ARE GLASS and those buildings have windows that ran from the 1 floor to the top floor.
|
|