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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 8:34:00 GMT -6
Kind of an odd question, isn't it? This is one of those things that is a little difficult to define. What differentiates music from mere sound? Is it melody? Rhythm? Both? Either? If it's only melody, then that means that pure percussion isn't music, and that songs like this aren't music. If it's only rhythm, then ambient isn't music. But if neither are requirements, then podcasts could be considered music. (Note that when I use the term "melody" here, I mean any note with an identifiable pitch (A, B, F#, etc.).) I think that melody or rhythm is a sufficient requirement. At least one but not necessarily both must be met for me to consider something to be music. What do you think?
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Jan 30, 2017 11:39:38 GMT -6
Great thread bro. I love it when people make me think. My opinion, the short definition of "music" is "an artistic composition of sound". Composition implies that it has to be put together, whether its a singer with a guitar, a singer with a couple spoons, just a singer, or just music made from whatever. Melody, beat and rhythm are just a byproduct of said composition - not the defining factors of music. It can be written and rehearsed, or it can just be spontaneously put together - either way, its sounds put together. I think most people would think John Cage's 4'33" isn't music - but its sounds (granted, any sounds are by "chance" - hence "chance music"), it was composed (it was put together that way), and despite being strange, its rather creative/artistic. But if neither are requirements, then podcasts could be considered music. So could the sounds of wind blowing in the trees be God making music? LOL I think by the composition definition, then wind and podcasts would be a yes... but from a practical standpoint, compared to music that contains melody, beat and rhythm... not really.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Jan 30, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -6
I would say the definition of music lies in the intent behind the sounds (or the person listening to them), rather than the sounds themselves. So I'd say music is any sound that's meant to be listened to for the way it sounds. That includes spoken word, for example, because it's still a "genre", but excludes radio talk shows/podcasts/etc, because (I assume?) most people listen to those for the topics being discussed, not the sounds of people's voices in and of themselves. In the same way, Christian black metal would be "music", but a church sermon wouldn't be "music". On the other hand, if someone really were to (theoretically) listen to a talk show or something because they like how it sounds, then it could subjectively become music for the person listening to it.
In the same way, radio static probably wouldn't be music (in my definition) because it's not meant to be music, and the only people listening to it are probably just trying to tune into a radio station. But if you generated similar sounds in Audacity or something, and released it on CD, it would become music because people would be listening to it for enjoyment.
And of course music can have ideologies tied to it - we're on a message board about such music! And people can obviously listen to that music for the message, but the point is, they're still listening to music.
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Post by _ on Mar 30, 2017 20:27:25 GMT -6
the short definition of "music" is "an artistic composition of sound" I remember reading this and thinking it was a great thought, so ... yep. Cool topic, CW.
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