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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 28, 2017 12:04:49 GMT -6
I've been dragging my feet on completing this, but its finally done. 31 minutes of music would technically make it a full length feature. Genre: Martial Industrial, but there are some elements of Drone, Funeral Doom, Spoken Word (technically "Whispered Word"), Noise, Ambient... Probably some other stuff, or not, I don't know. I have a feeling several members here would know better than I would and please correct me if I'm mislabeling this. Project: Disgyblaeth (The name is Welsh for the word "Discipline" - pronounced Diss-Geh-Blyth, Blyth with the long sound, rhymes with "five") Album: Revelation (specifically referring to last book in the New Testament) Tracklist: I. Chapter 21 Verses 3-4 II. Chapter 3 Verses 20-21 III. Chapter 1 Verses 7-8 IV. Chapter 12 Verses 10-11 V. Chapter 20 Verses 5-6 VI. Chapter 14 Verses 6-7 Lyrics: Obviously with the album name being "Revelation" and the song names being chapter and verse coordinates, therein are the lyrics. I read from the NLT version of the Bible. ...and yes, this would be marketed as Christian Martial Industrial. The instruments are layers of various woodwinds, flute, clarinet, even a harp buried in there, voice-ahs, timpani and other noises/sound effects. The vocals are layers of whispering. The mood is more mournful/sorrowful sounding than "dark". This isn't really something to "jam out" to, but more have wash over you in the background. Like Orationem, I adhered to a very strict writing formula. The bad would be, every song sounds quite similar. The good, if you LIKE the formula, you'll like the whole album. Inspiration/influences: IHS, Ire: Blood Memory, Sophia, Karjalan Sissit Regarding hearing this, the bad news is - I'm not going to post any samples. (though there's a rough draft in the original post of the Martial Industrial thread.) The good news is, as a GIFT to EVERY MEMBER here, PM me your request to listen to it, and I will respond to you with a direct-download zip file containing 320kbs MP3s of the entire album. I would like anyone who gets a download to reply to this thread, nothing major - just a sentence or two, with your general thoughts of this project/album. (Why you do or don't like it, how the atmosphere makes you feel, etc.) A personal detailed review would be a treat to read, but really - all I'd request is just a brief opinion. Oh and by the way... I'm HOPING that now that I've got THIS out of my system, more black metal will be coming soon... Thank you,
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 28, 2017 14:00:46 GMT -6
I updated my influences. While IHS most certainly was an influence for this, it wasn't the only influence. Might as well put my wife's input about the album down. She listens to and likes country, so this is a good "outsider" perspective. (outsider to the normal genres we listen to here.) "I like the whisper vocals, and it sounds beautiful. ...but it sounds really sad. I don't know how something that sounds sad could also sound beautiful, but this is it."
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Apr 28, 2017 14:52:01 GMT -6
I like what I'm hearing! It sounds melancholic for sure, but also a little bright/hopeful. It'd probably be good music to listen to whenever I feel depressed. Although it's not really what I expect when I first think of "martial industrial" - I tend to think of the more bombastic/aggressive stuff - I like it!
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 28, 2017 15:17:24 GMT -6
Thanks bro!
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Post by grendel on Apr 28, 2017 15:53:23 GMT -6
Being no expert in Music, I can just tell, how it affects me. So, I like those whispered merged into one another verses. My personal favourite is Track V. The Album gives me an epic Feeling, unfortunately, for my personal taste, it is too ambient, it could be more "heavy" (like Thorn Agram, for example). But over all, it is a good Background Music - melancholic, yet uplifting mood!
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 28, 2017 16:54:26 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback bro! I think it has an epic feeling too. Never listened to Thorn Agram before. ...but after listening to that, I get what you're saying as far as what I made being too ambient. Timpani definitely doesn't have much of an "exploding" percussion, like Thorn Agram. I did want to have "faster beats" though, and I felt that a ddd-ddd-d-d with explosions would have been too much for what I was trying to go for. :B ...plus, I felt the timpani gave the atmosphere a more brooding quality, but that's my own personal ear. LOL I'm actually second guessing myself... would Disgyblaeth actually be like a hybrid of martial industrial and dark folk? Like this: The percussion isn't hitting as hard.
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Post by _ on Apr 29, 2017 13:27:37 GMT -6
Bro! This was sweet. I enjoyed listening to it. It's a cool and uncommon combination of contemplative and epic, I think. As you note, the tracks aren't too diverse, but I liked what I heard, so it wasn't an issue for me.
I don't have any advice because I don't know what you're going for. I did think that the tracks were very conducive to story-telling; of course, the Scriptures have a story element. It might be interesting to hear background audio clips in some of the songs like of a fire burning (a la Ildnatten by Antestor), someone praying (a la Freedom Is Near by Hortor), cries of anguish, cries of jubilee, general sounds of an army doin' army stuff (e.g. clinking of weapons), general sounds of a community (like village sounds of bells, children, chickens (yes, this is random)). It might also be cool if one of the tracks included another person whispering the verses (like your wife?!).
Great stuff, dude!
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Post by Thomas Eversole on May 1, 2017 18:00:40 GMT -6
I think my thing with having all songs (involved in an album) having such a strict formula is moreso for the sake of production than anything. I'd much rather have songs sound "too similar" than a full length sounding like a compilation. Nothing cripples a non (black) metal release more than having a production nightmare.
I like your ideas. Being completely and 100% honest though, this project was the result of me still having a music bug, but being COMPLETELY burnt out on playing black metal. Definitely something to consider if I decide to take this route again.
I'm seriously considering just putting these videos on my Orationem channel, under that "miscellaneous" EverSoul category. For one, there are some similarities (especially in the writing approach), for two, it will make it seem less like I was doing NOTHING musically for the past several months, when subscribers look at a channel that has had no activity since February.
For three, there's NOTHING in regards to "Christian ambient record labels". They don't exist. The metal labels don't want anything to do with this for obvious reasons. ...and well, no sense in making a full length album unless everyone can hear it. So...
Thoughts on that?
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Post by _ on May 1, 2017 19:09:05 GMT -6
That makes sense, bro. I think getting the album out there would be sweet.
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Post by kimmo on May 3, 2017 5:09:55 GMT -6
I have been listening to this a bit now and I really like it! I have always had a soft spot for melancholy, the whole doom and gloom I am not very familiar to this particular style of music and while I like some more repetitive music, I am kind of missing a few hooks here and there. I do not know what those "hooks" would be exactly, maybe some samples (other than the spoken word thing)? Maybe a change to a major key after several minutes would do it. But then again, this kind of stuff might be something that might grow when you listen to it more. So maybe it is fine how it is
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 6:53:47 GMT -6
I enjoy it as well. What makes this stand out from other similar music is the whispered vocals. I really like them. I guess my only major complaint is that it feels the same for the entire album...but you said that all the tracks were deliberately done in the same style, so that's to be expected. I just enjoy a little more variety (typically, variety in emotion/feeling) in an album. My suggestion would be to add some more ambient/field recording parts such as sounds of rainfall, wind, running water, and a crackling fire to give it that natural vibe.
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Post by kimmo on May 3, 2017 11:44:38 GMT -6
My suggestion would be to add some more ambient/field recording parts such as sounds of rainfall, wind, running water, and a crackling fire to give it that natural vibe. Great idea, I love that kind of stuff too!
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Post by barabbas on Jun 25, 2017 22:10:21 GMT -6
I'm way late to the party on this one, but I've had the chance to listen to the album a few times. Let me say first that I'm really thankful that this exists and that you've done it, Thomas. This is a genre I've been interested in exploring. I haven't gotten very far yet. (Recommendations are welcome!)
Overall, I really like the concept and the atmosphere on the album. It's executed well.
As we were told, the album has the same general vibe throughout. I don't think that's necessarily a problem, but I haven't yet discovered what my mood would be that would prompt me to go back to it regularly. I guess what I'd like to hear is more of a story, with a beginning, middle, and end. That wouldn't have to be in each track, but could be across the album. I think there would be several ways to do that.
I think the choice of texts is really good, and that's a great way to put together a concept for an album.
Thanks again, Thomas! The Lord continue to bless your efforts in music.
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Post by visionofGodrecords on Jul 9, 2017 3:12:34 GMT -6
this release will be out on Christian metal underground records in about 2 months
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Post by kimmo on Dec 26, 2017 4:17:32 GMT -6
I was making my year list (that I do not usually do, but decided to to this time ), and this little gem is definately in it. It is interesting how the vibe in the songs can be described both "eerie" and "hopeful". I say its the whispered scripture parts that does the hope -thing mostly but there is something about the compositions too that make it more majestic than a lot of the really depressive dark ambient releases. Also, while I love the repetition in this, the sudden changes in the song or between them, are quite clever! Most of all, this is the kind of music that needs to be EXPERIENCED, not just listened like some random hit single on the radio.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Dec 28, 2017 19:08:23 GMT -6
Thanks bro. I've hit the YouTube playlist I put on my Orationem channel a few times, for my own listening enjoyment. Well, more "washing over me while I do something else" instead of listening....
I think I'm hitting a bit of a creativity wall with Orationem. Gotta let it air out for a while so new ideas seep in. Disgyblaeth however, I've got OODLES of new ideas for a sophomore album.
Since this Revelation album was one of BandCamp's Essential Albums of November 2017, I might try to shoot high for a record label with my next attempt. Emphasis on "might". Need to pray about it more...
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Post by jazzhead on Jan 3, 2018 21:25:24 GMT -6
This is definitely one of my favorite albums of last year.
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Post by avjr on Jan 3, 2018 21:46:05 GMT -6
This is definitely one of my favorite albums of last year. Me too!
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Post by _ on Mar 30, 2019 13:15:49 GMT -6
Disgyblaeth however, I've got OODLES of new ideas for a sophomore album. Since this Revelation album was one of BandCamp's Essential Albums of November 2017, I might try to shoot high for a record label with my next attempt. Emphasis on "might". Need to pray about it more... Any update? I really dig the music.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 2, 2019 8:25:07 GMT -6
Disgyblaeth however, I've got OODLES of new ideas for a sophomore album. Since this Revelation album was one of BandCamp's Essential Albums of November 2017, I might try to shoot high for a record label with my next attempt. Emphasis on "might". Need to pray about it more... Any update? I really dig the music. Its really hard to juggle black metal mode and ambient mode. Lately, its been black metal. (Orationem) I'd say its still black metal because I'm kicking around other Orationem ideas for another track and a full length. (one bro that's been emailing me, I told him my "next album plans") I'm not ruling out more Disgyblaeth. I'd like to try my ideas I have for it.... but I'd want to do more Orationem, even more Relax, Sleep, Dark White Noise Ambience, before I tackle more Disgyblaeth.
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