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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 24, 2020 7:36:54 GMT -6
In recent years, I've found "old" music that reminds me of black metal, that isn't black metal. I don't know what it is, precisely, but the "feeling" from this music, is almost identical to that of black metal. I found that feeling too. I think the production plays a big part in that. I've been in the mood to listen to black metal, and I'll play some over-produced, dare I say "mainstream", black metal and.... well its good. Not quite to my satisfaction though. ...but I'll put on some obscure silent film from the 1920s-1930s and get more "underground black metal satisfaction" from that, than actual black metal sometimes. LOL
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Post by avjr on Mar 29, 2020 18:10:46 GMT -6
My gothic friend, Khrystofer Robin, has something to say.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Mar 30, 2020 18:42:38 GMT -6
My gothic friend, Khrystofer Robin, has something to say. Now I understand why he had a bear with him the whole time at Audiofeed. If only someone could explain why Scot Shaw from Leper constantly wears a veil.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Mar 31, 2020 8:07:44 GMT -6
One of my favorite things in life, seeing a dude that looks all sorts of mean, scary, unapproachable by normal (whatever normal is) societal standards.... and then they talk, and they show their heart is full of love for Jesus.
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Post by benz on Apr 1, 2020 8:46:48 GMT -6
Yes! i remember that the common feeling black metal shared with alot of the classical music i was listening, is what drew me into the genre in the first place, although in my case it was sort of the other way around (compared to you). -https://youtu.be/Od5cGDOKXFk -https://youtu.be/T4XwO3bc0G0 -https://youtu.be/hLxwycS-m7c
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 1, 2020 12:39:57 GMT -6
Century Media Records had a pretty epic April Fools. They released this track a week ago... Today, they revealed who the vocalists were.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Apr 2, 2020 15:34:57 GMT -6
Century Media Records had a pretty epic April Fools. They released this track a week ago... Today, they revealed who the vocalists were. Honestly, I liked the song. The production was too clean for the lo-fi vocals, but otherwise it was enjoyable. Now it's time for the sad moment when you find an awesome new band, then look them up on Metal Archives and find that one of their lyrical themes is "Occultism." All I got from the lyrics was "rawr rawr blech," so I guess I'm OK.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on Apr 2, 2020 18:30:08 GMT -6
Not that anyone I know really comes to mind when I thought of this, but I actually made myself cringe at the thought of Christian metal bros seeing that Canis Morsum and recoiling from it as it if were evil incarnate... only to find out the vocals are dogs, and then they're ok with it. Or even worse, find out the vocals are dogs, and still think the track is evil incarnate.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Apr 2, 2020 20:37:02 GMT -6
Not that anyone I know really comes to mind when I thought of this, but I actually made myself cringe at the thought of Christian metal bros seeing that Canis Morsum and recoiling from it as it if were evil incarnate... only to find out the vocals are dogs, and then they're ok with it. Or even worse, find out the vocals are dogs, and still think the track is evil incarnate. A disappointing amount of Christians use "random impulses/feelings" instead of proper, Godly discernment, to make decisions.
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Post by julienbakerfan on Apr 4, 2020 17:49:17 GMT -6
Not that anyone I know really comes to mind when I thought of this, but I actually made myself cringe at the thought of Christian metal bros seeing that Canis Morsum and recoiling from it as it if were evil incarnate... only to find out the vocals are dogs, and then they're ok with it. Or even worse, find out the vocals are dogs, and still think the track is evil incarnate. A disappointing amount of Christians use "random impulses/feelings" instead of proper, Godly discernment, to make decisions. Today my dad sent me something about how Nike was demonic and how wearing Nike shoes is the reason why the Coronavirus has come to America. To put this in perspective, my dad is a very reasonable and godly man, but he's friends with a lot of crazy people on Facebook and doesn't tend to unfollow people. Thus, he sends me a lot stuff like this ironically.
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Post by anfauglith on Apr 12, 2020 4:01:11 GMT -6
Happy Easter, everybody!
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Post by avjr on Apr 12, 2020 20:35:06 GMT -6
I love this woman! 🥰
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Post by anfauglith on Apr 15, 2020 8:20:31 GMT -6
Some days ago I read an article about dungeon synth which was basically around how dungeon synth in some way became a substitute for the kind of stuff black metal used to be about in the 90s. The author was not all together wrong I guess. Coming to like black metal in the late 90s I somehow miss the kind of aesthetics that where around then. Some of them where dropped for good reasons though. Anyway, I kind of like those things like fantasy themed lyrics, Tolkien stuff, woods and trolls, ghosts, lovecraftian art... ... Still there in some of the dungeon synth corners, in a very concentrated form.
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Post by Borndead on Apr 15, 2020 16:36:43 GMT -6
never understood the term dungeon synth. I had people call some of my stuff dungeon synth but whenever I checked out some bands in that style, they´ve sounded like "normal" ambient/dark ambient bands to me. I think bands like Mortiis, Erang, Summoning(even) were labeld Dungeon Synth.
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Post by anfauglith on Apr 16, 2020 3:17:07 GMT -6
I think dungeon synth has more melody in it than dark ambient. Dark ambient in my understanding tends to be more "drony" and spacy when dungeon synth has this kind of (sometimes kitschy) medieval themes and melodies in it. A good description for dungeon synth I found on the internet was that it is like some keyboard intro from black metal bands mutated and became it's own genre.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on Apr 16, 2020 20:52:23 GMT -6
If anyone remembers me being like, "OOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh TEE HEE, A CERTAIN BAND IS WORKING ON NEW MUSIC AND MIIIIIIIIIIIGHT BE ON BLACKEST LIGHT 3, HEE HEE LAWLZ", well:
1) Obviously that didn't happen, oops
2) That band is still working on their next release, and ASKED ME TO DRAW A NEW LOGO FOR THEM SO THAT'S REALLY COOL
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Post by avjr on Apr 17, 2020 20:50:28 GMT -6
She makes good points.
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Post by anfauglith on May 1, 2020 5:34:21 GMT -6
Just found out there is a thing like "red and anarchist black metal"... Okay... Not my mug of beer, but if somebody wants to do something like that... But anyway, never ever tell me something like "there can't be a thing like christian black metal!" again. In my oppinion a certain kind of christian spirituality is much closer to some of the philosophic principles (if there are such, in the end) of black metal (no, I do not talk about burning churches and randomly murdering people 😁🙂😄😆) than some anti-capitalism-animal-rights-and-so-on-stuff.
Some time ago I stumbled upon some leftist pro-abortion-compilation on Bandcamp. Also with a certain kind of bm-artists on it. Same thing. If such may exist, never ever tell me again that christian bm cannot be.
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Post by julienbakerfan on May 1, 2020 8:44:30 GMT -6
Some time ago I stumbled upon some leftist pro-abortion-compilation on Bandcamp. Riffs for Reproductive Justice? "red and anarchist black metal" I've listened to a little bit of this. A lot of it sounds like Wolves in the Throne Room with anarchist lyrics. There are also some "epic crust" bands that sound close to black metal, like Fall of Efafra and some other bands that sound like Fall of Efafra. ever ever tell me something like "there can't be a thing like christian black metal!" again People who are still policing black metal need to realize the 90s are over. One of my favorite BM projects is a mixture of BM and synthwave. Not trve cvlt at all.
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Post by anfauglith on May 1, 2020 9:39:54 GMT -6
Riffs for Reproductive Justice? Maybe, can't say for sure. Just saw it and thought "You don't say?". Part of the good thing is that, like you said, that now there is in fact wide space for a wide variety of tastes, world views, etc., so everybody can go and discover his or her own field of interests. There also always was a "more" in black metal exceeding the narrow line of cheap occult and anti-christian lyrics and aesthetics. For me bm in it's core has the idea of not accepting borders, so that is in some kind only congruent that it will grow in quite many directions. Especially those more left approaches and the subgenres boardering to crust core and the anarchist scene are for a number of reason not for me and I am more or less against those ideas. But if there are people who like it and want to go in this directions, well, they may. No tears for policing and the ministry of black metal trveness.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on May 1, 2020 11:15:50 GMT -6
In my oppinion a certain kind of christian spirituality is much closer to some of the philosophic principles (if there are such, in the end) of black metal Agreed. At least, as far as everything black metal claims to care about. (Though I fear a lot of that is just posturing.) Christianity is much closer to the ideals of black metal than any other religious or spiritual path. They just don't know it because they don't actually understand Christian philosophy. They just take what they hear from some random crappy church, or some televangelist, and think, "That's Christianity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Post by Thomas Eversole on May 1, 2020 15:42:10 GMT -6
A recent interview with the band 1349 (great secular black metal act if anyone is not familiar), the interviewer asked them if they think the listener "goes through a spiritual experience with listening to black metal".
The band's response,
I'm sure many do. HOPEFULLY they do. That what we hope they experience. You can enjoy an album in so many different ways, and we're not to tell that it has to be done like this or not. But its also ok just to put on an album and enjoy the wildness and rawness and energy of it without necessarily feeling every aspect of it.
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Post by anfauglith on May 2, 2020 2:34:15 GMT -6
I'm sure many do. HOPEFULLY they do. That what we hope they experience. You can enjoy an album in so many different ways, and we're not to tell that it has to be done like this or not. But its also ok just to put on an album and enjoy the wildness and rawness and energy of it without necessarily feeling every aspect of it. Can you post a link to that interview? I'd be very much interested. I think that is just what I mean. Of course that does not work with all kinds of black metal. I think there is a kind of vibe in black metal that borders on imagery from the age of romanticism and on the whole concept of the sublime. If you look at Caspar David Friedrich's painting "Wanderer above the Sea of Fog", that is somehow my idea of black metal and where it borders on the field of spiritual experiences.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on May 2, 2020 8:15:25 GMT -6
Can you post a link to that interview? I'd be very much interested. Sure bro. Here you go.
What I typed is what they say pretty early on in the interview. Then they talk about vinyl, performing live, and also "discipline and sternness". Something stood out to me with these two band members talking... They used absolutely no profanity. If you look at Caspar David Friedrich's painting "Wanderer above the Sea of Fog", that is somehow my idea of black metal and where it borders on the field of spiritual experiences. "Wanderer above the Sea of Fog" is probably my favorite track from Wolves in the Throne Room's "Black Cascade" album.
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Post by Borndead on May 6, 2020 17:50:11 GMT -6
I love stuff like this, always cracks me up but is musically not bad at all.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on May 6, 2020 18:54:19 GMT -6
I remember seeing that video before, it's amazing, haha!
WHEN YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE PLAYING WITH A CAT, THAT'S RACISM!!
It'll be interesting to see how this video ages since he released "Jesus Is King". Will he stick with us? Will he go back to thinking it's racist not to play with cats?
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Post by julienbakerfan on May 7, 2020 15:06:54 GMT -6
Something stood out to me with these two band members talking... They used absolutely no profanity. I watched a series of Kerrang videos with artists talking about the albums that influenced them. The only people on the videos who cursed at all were the two guys from UnderOath, who threw around f-bombs like ninth-grade boys. Ex-Christians just gotta be edgy.
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Post by julienbakerfan on May 7, 2020 15:08:46 GMT -6
It's interesting that so many black metal lyrics are so vague that you could play a game: Is this a Christian band or not?
For example: Rise O trinity The Absolute The Clay The Paraclete Anima mundi Mysterium Fidem
This is from Wells Valley. I'm pretty sure they're not Christian. But you could fool someone into thinking they were with some of their lyrics.
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Post by nocturnaliridescence on May 8, 2020 13:05:55 GMT -6
I don't think I'll ever fully reach a point where Malacht's "De Mysteriis dom Christi" doesn't scare me. I've listened to some freaky music in my life, but this album, man, it's on a whole other level.
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Post by Thomas Eversole on May 8, 2020 18:04:44 GMT -6
It's interesting that so many black metal lyrics are so vague that you could play a game: Is this a Christian band or not? This. I've encountered secular black metal lyrics that made me think: If this, verbatim, were in an Antestor booklet, no one would bat an eye. Still, I think if someone feels a bad vibe from "music" regardless of how it's labeled, they should stay away. But I don't have that vibe myself. I've been really enjoying the new Helfró self titled. I'm not even sure if people would consider it evil or not. Maybe, because it's on Season of Mist... or how it sounds. Its not English. It may be Swedish. I haven't seen any imagery or symbols to indicate evil. Not even remotely curious to research what the message is. I'm content it being ambiguous gibberish.
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